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Well - we all knew the cattle people would not stand for the same type of regs we have. Apparently the only threat to health great enough to warrant individual ID is CWD. Remember the place that wanted to test all of their cattle for Mad Cow so they could ship to Japan and the government wouldn't let them??? Hummmmmmmm
Wild Rivers Whitetails said:
YOU are so very well correct !
Greetings Hunters,
my name is Terry S. Singeltary, and I thought I would comment on this post.
you can blame the USDA et al for this mess, along with the some of the industry that rode their backs, and still are. why was it a double standard for CWD in cervids (now at two different strains), and Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy testing and surveillance, compared to that of the bovine with BSE Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy (now at 4 strains, with the typical c-BSE, and the atypical h-BSE, and l-BSE, now documented in North America, along with typical Scrapie and atypical scrapie in sheep and goats ? i will tell you why, in my opinion, you were targeted as the scape goat so to speak (the only TSE threat of North America), a long time ago, and now look at the mess we are in. I have watched the TSE debacle in the USA and the USDA et al could not have done a worse job, even if they had tried. most of you probably are not even aware of it, it sure is not in the media much anymore, and this is exactly why $$$, and because of the long incubation period.
There is much more to this story than the UKBSEnvCJD hamburger eating adolescents only theory.
I will post a few links below about this mess, and you can follow yourselves if you want, if you are interested in 'the rest of the story'. We can disguss CWD if you like. most here will not like what i have to say.
in my opinion, i think we need NAIS. i think as a consumer, we have a right to this information. as a Country importing our product, they have a right to know, it should be law. it should be mandatory that when an animal disease or human disease there from break out, the animal and or it's product can be traced. and as a producer of that product, if you are too worried about confidentiality, you are trying to hide something, then you should not be in the business. how in the world can knowing from where a cow comes from i.e. traceability, be such a threat to the producer, unless they simply want to hide something? in 2010, the USA, in relations to cattle identification and tracing, could not trace their @ss if they had both hands on it, in my opinion, and going by past history of the last two documented mad cows. the USA has been discussing this for over a decade. I don't understand it, all these other Country's that have some sort of Animal Traceability in place, they are and have been trying to eradicate BSE, that have had a feed ban in place, that have been abiding by it, testing in numbers to find and eradicate the TSEs, and the USA just seems to be doing the opposite in many ways it seems to me. if the USA is not going to trace it's meat products, why should other Country's trace theirs? The USA is BSE GBR III, all of North America is BSE GBR III (with all the evidence of breaches in the bse feed ban, the breaches in the BSE surveillance program, i personally believe it is BSE GBR IV). The problem is, the USDA just never accepted it (BSE GBR III), and then changed the rules with the BSE MRR. this BSE MRR policy literally trashed 30 years of attempted BSE GBR eradication of this disease. What about other trading partners with the U.S.A. that DO HAVE a traceability system. i think Australia is getting ready to roll over and get MMR'ed, therefore they too will just be another victim of allowing all strains of Typical and Atypical BSE/TSE into their Country via the USDA OIE BSE MRR policy, a policy of trading all strains of mad cow disease globally. The O.I.E., by bending over for the USDA with this damn BSE MRR policy, has sold their sole to the devil, and in doing so, sold yours too. ...
Good Hunting, but take this CWD seriously, it ain't going no where...............Terry
Wednesday, February 10, 2010
NAIS MAD COW TRACEABILITY DUMPED BY USDA APHIS 2010
http://naiscoolyes.blogspot.com/2010/02/nais-mad-cow-traceability-dumped-by.html
remember, and do not forget what the Honorable Nobel Peace Prize winner of the PRION i.e. Stanley Prusiner said ;
THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW ! ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE, ALL THAT MATTERS IS TRADE...
AFTER THE COW IN CANADA...LEVEL OF ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE, OF WHAT HE WAS TRYTING TO CONTAIN...
THE ENTIRE POLICY WAS DRIVEN BY WHAT THE USA WAS TELLING HIM TO DO...SO NOW AFTER SOME TIME HAS PASSED...
SO NOW AFTER TIME HAS PASSED IT'S O.K. FOR BONELESS BEEF PRODUCTS FROM UNDER 30 MONTHS TO BE EXPORTED FROM CANADA TO THE UNITED STATES, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERED...
YES, I THINK THAT PRIONS ARE BAD TO EAT, AND YOU CAN DIE FROM THEM...
http://maddeer.org/video/embedded/prusinerclip.html
Analysis of Data on Presumed Dead and Untraceable Animals
CEAH performed an analysis of the minimum estimated ages of those COI that were classified as either presumed dead or untraceable to determine the likely disposition of those animals based on their ages. Moreover, CEAH performed an analysis of the likely disposition of the one calf that was classified as untraceable during the investigation.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/bse/downloads/bse_final_epi_report8-05.pdf
http://usdameatexport.blogspot.com/2009/03/nais-comments-ncba-and-r-calf-wednesday.html
WE know that the FDA mad cow feed ban of August 4, 1997 was nothing but ink on paper. there is still animal protein in commerce in the USA being fed out to cattle and other livestock as we speak. see a few warning letters and or recalls here ;
http://madcowfeed.blogspot.com/2010/02/import-alert-99-25-detention-without.html
WE also know that the USDA certified dead stock downer cow school lunch program NSLP, fed these most high risk cattle for BSE and mad cow disease and other deadly pathogens to our children all across our Nation for over 4 YEARS, you can see this here ;
http://downercattle.blogspot.com/2009/09/suit-meatpacker-used-downer-cows-for-4.html
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Establishing a Fully Integrated National Food Safety System with Strengthened Inspection, Laboratory and Response Capacity Draft 09/24/09
http://fdafailedus.blogspot.com/2010/01/establishing-fully-integrated-national.html
Friday, January 29, 2010 14th International Congress on Infectious Diseases H-type and L-type Atypical BSE January 2010 (special pre-congress edition)
http://bse-atypical.blogspot.com/2010/01/14th-international-congress-on.html
Saturday, January 2, 2010
Human Prion Diseases in the United States January 1, 2010 ***FINAL***
http://prionunitusaupdate2008.blogspot.com/2010/01/human-prion-diseases-in-united-states.html
my comments to PLosone here ;
http://www.plosone.org/annotation/l...notation/04ce2b24-613d-46e6-9802-4131e2bfa6fd
Thursday, February 4, 2010
SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY ADVISORY COMMITTEE Draft Minutes of the 103rd Meeting held on 24th November 2009
http://seac992007.blogspot.com/2010/02/spongiform-encephalopathy-advisory.html
IN CONFIDENCE
April-May 1989
PERCEPTIONS OF UNCONVENTIONAL SLOW VIRUS DISEASES OF ANIMALS IN THE USA
http://collections.europarchive.org...www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdf
We believe that these findings may indicate the presence of a previously unrecognized scrapie-like disease in cattle and wish to alert dairy practitioners to this possibility.
snip...
PROCEEDINGS OF THE SEVENTH ANNUAL WESTERN CONFERENCE FOR FOOD ANIMAL VETERINARY MEDICINE, University of Arizona, March 17-19, 1986
http://web.archive.org/web/20030331063559/http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m09a/tab01.pdf
J. Comp. Path. 2006, Vol. 134, 63-69
Experimental Second Passage of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWDmule deer) Agent to Cattle
A. N. Hamir, R. A. Kunkle, J. M. Miller, J. J. Greenlee and J. A. Richt Agricultural Research Service, United States Department of Agriculture, National Animal Disease Center, 2300 Dayton Avenue, P.O. Box 70, Ames, IA 50010, USA
snip...
Discussion
CWD, like all other TSEs, is characterized by a long incubation period, which in deer is seldom less than 18 months (Williams and Young, 1992). In an experimental study of cattle inoculated intracerebrally with CWD from mule deer (first passage), amplification of PrPres was demonstrated in only five of 13 (38%) cattle, after incubation periods that ranged from 23 to 63 months (Hamir et al., 2001a, 2005a). In contrast, all inoculated cattle in the present study were positive for PrPres within 16.5 months. This increased attack rate with shorter incubation periods probably indicates adaptation of the CWDmule deer agent to a new host. ...snip ;
http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/34009/1/IND43787291.pdf
Tuesday, February 09, 2010
Chronic Wasting Disease: Surveillance Update North America: February 2010
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2010/02/chronic-wasting-disease-surveillance.html
TSS
APHIS (USDA) Factsheet
Veterinary Services
February 2010
Questions and Answers:
New Animal Disease Traceability Framework
Q. What kind of comments did you receive during the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) listening tour and submitted online?
A. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) received a wide variety of comments during the listening tour. Some people were in favor of NAIS, but the vast majority of participants were highly critical of the program. Some of the concerns and criticisms raised included confidentiality, liability, cost, privacy, and religion. There were also concerns about NAIS being the wrong priority for USDA, that the system benefits only large-scale producers, and that NAIS is unnecessary because existing animal identification systems are sufficient.
During the feedback process, USDA also received input from Tribal Nations and industry groups, as well as representatives for small and organic farmers.
USDA seriously considered and reviewed all the comments and feedback we received before deciding how to address animal disease traceability.
Q. What has USDA decided to do about NAIS?
A. USDA announced on February 5, 2010, that it will revise the prior animal identification policy and offer a new approach to achieving animal disease traceability. We need an adaptable system that will help us find disease, quickly address it, and minimize harm to producers. USDA will move forward using a flexible yet coordinated approach that embraces the strengths and expertise of States, Tribal Nations, and producers.
Q. Why did you make this decision?
A. Preventing and controlling animal disease is the cornerstone of protecting American animal agriculture. The United States needs a flexible system that will allow us to find disease, quickly address it and minimize harm to producers.
Under the previous Administration, USDA tried to implement NAIS. USDA spent more than $120 million, but only 36 percent of producers participated. It is no secret that there are concerns about and opposition to NAIS.
While USDA appreciates the more than 500,000 producers who took part in our animal disease traceability efforts, it’s time that we do more to make these efforts more workable, feasible and common sense for all of America’s producers—especially small producers.
This new approach honors the very legitimate concerns of the American public and those in Rural America, as well as those who have supported our past animal disease traceability efforts. USDA is moving forward with an approach to animal disease traceability that is flexible and lets the States, Tribal Nations, and producers use their expertise to find and use the animal disease traceability approaches that work best for them.
Q. Do we really need animal disease traceability? Why?
A. Animal disease traceability, or knowing where diseased and at-risk animals are, where they've been, and when, is very important to make sure that there can be a rapid response when animal disease events take place.
Animal disease traceability does not prevent disease. But knowing where diseased and at-risk animals are is indispensable during an emergency response and for ongoing disease programs. It helps to reduce the number of animal deaths and preserve animal health when outbreaks occur in certain parts of the country. It can also limit the number of animal owners impacted by an outbreak and reduce the economic strain on owners and affected communities.
Animal Disease Traceability Framework
Q. What exactly is the new animal disease traceability framework?
A. The benefit of Secretary Vilsack’s decision to move forward with a new approach to animal disease traceability is that USDA will not be creating the framework alone. USDA will partner with States and Tribal Nations to create the framework for the new approach.
USDA also plans to re-establish a Secretary’s Advisory Committee on Animal Health with representatives from States, Tribal Nations, industry groups, local farms, organic farmers, and underserved communities to assist us in evaluating commodity-based animal disease traceability approaches, along with State-by-State and Tribe-by-Tribe animal disease traceability efforts. This Committee will also advise USDA on other issues that need addressing, such as confidentiality and liability.
A few other aspects are clear. The intent of the new approach is to:
Achieve basic, effective animal disease traceability and response to animal disease outbreaks without overly burdening producers;
ONLY apply to animals moving in interstate commerce;
Be owned, led, and administered by the States and Tribal Nations with Federal support focused entirely on animal disease traceability;
Allow for maximum flexibility for States, Tribal Nations, and producers to work together to find identification solutions that meet their local needs;
Encourage the use of lower-cost technology;
Ensure that animal disease traceability data is owned and maintained at the discretion of the States and Tribal Nations;
Be less Federally intrusive and support producers’ request to operate on principles of personal accountability; and
Help overcome some of the mistrust caused by NAIS.
Q. How is this different from the old system?
A. This new approach will be focused entirely on animal disease traceability. It will be led and administered by the States and Tribal Nations. USDA’s role will be to provide support to the States and Tribal Nations, and to work cooperatively with them to ensure animal disease traceability standards are defined, measurable, and well documented. Once the standards are defined, States, Tribal Nations, and producers will determine what methods will work best for them to achieve animal disease traceability.
The new framework focuses only on animals that move in interstate commerce. So, small producers who raise animals and move them within a State, Tribal Nation, or to local markets, as well as to feed themselves, their families, and their neighbors are not a part of the framework’s scope and focus."
Read the entire 7 page PDF document at:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_health/content/printable_version/faq_traceability.pdf
If the link is broken into two lines in the message you receive, you will need to cut and paste both lines (without a break) into the URL address window of your browser. Or, google: Animal Disease Traceability Framework APHIS .
Veterinary Services
February 2010
Questions and Answers:
New Animal Disease Traceability Framework
Q. What kind of comments did you receive during the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) listening tour and submitted online?
A. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) received a wide variety of comments during the listening tour. Some people were in favor of NAIS, but the vast majority of participants were highly critical of the program. Some of the concerns and criticisms raised included confidentiality, liability, cost, privacy, and religion. There were also concerns about NAIS being the wrong priority for USDA, that the system benefits only large-scale producers, and that NAIS is unnecessary because existing animal identification systems are sufficient.
During the feedback process, USDA also received input from Tribal Nations and industry groups, as well as representatives for small and organic farmers.
USDA seriously considered and reviewed all the comments and feedback we received before deciding how to address animal disease traceability.
Q. What has USDA decided to do about NAIS?
A. USDA announced on February 5, 2010, that it will revise the prior animal identification policy and offer a new approach to achieving animal disease traceability. We need an adaptable system that will help us find disease, quickly address it, and minimize harm to producers. USDA will move forward using a flexible yet coordinated approach that embraces the strengths and expertise of States, Tribal Nations, and producers.
Q. Why did you make this decision?
A. Preventing and controlling animal disease is the cornerstone of protecting American animal agriculture. The United States needs a flexible system that will allow us to find disease, quickly address it and minimize harm to producers.
Under the previous Administration, USDA tried to implement NAIS. USDA spent more than $120 million, but only 36 percent of producers participated. It is no secret that there are concerns about and opposition to NAIS.
While USDA appreciates the more than 500,000 producers who took part in our animal disease traceability efforts, it’s time that we do more to make these efforts more workable, feasible and common sense for all of America’s producers—especially small producers.
This new approach honors the very legitimate concerns of the American public and those in Rural America, as well as those who have supported our past animal disease traceability efforts. USDA is moving forward with an approach to animal disease traceability that is flexible and lets the States, Tribal Nations, and producers use their expertise to find and use the animal disease traceability approaches that work best for them.
Q. Do we really need animal disease traceability? Why?
A. Animal disease traceability, or knowing where diseased and at-risk animals are, where they've been, and when, is very important to make sure that there can be a rapid response when animal disease events take place.
Animal disease traceability does not prevent disease. But knowing where diseased and at-risk animals are is indispensable during an emergency response and for ongoing disease programs. It helps to reduce the number of animal deaths and preserve animal health when outbreaks occur in certain parts of the country. It can also limit the number of animal owners impacted by an outbreak and reduce the economic strain on owners and affected communities.
Animal Disease Traceability Framework
Q. What exactly is the new animal disease traceability framework?
A. The benefit of Secretary Vilsack’s decision to move forward with a new approach to animal disease traceability is that USDA will not be creating the framework alone. USDA will partner with States and Tribal Nations to create the framework for the new approach.
USDA also plans to re-establish a Secretary’s Advisory Committee on Animal Health with representatives from States, Tribal Nations, industry groups, local farms, organic farmers, and underserved communities to assist us in evaluating commodity-based animal disease traceability approaches, along with State-by-State and Tribe-by-Tribe animal disease traceability efforts. This Committee will also advise USDA on other issues that need addressing, such as confidentiality and liability.
A few other aspects are clear. The intent of the new approach is to:
Achieve basic, effective animal disease traceability and response to animal disease outbreaks without overly burdening producers;
ONLY apply to animals moving in interstate commerce;
Be owned, led, and administered by the States and Tribal Nations with Federal support focused entirely on animal disease traceability;
Allow for maximum flexibility for States, Tribal Nations, and producers to work together to find identification solutions that meet their local needs;
Encourage the use of lower-cost technology;
Ensure that animal disease traceability data is owned and maintained at the discretion of the States and Tribal Nations;
Be less Federally intrusive and support producers’ request to operate on principles of personal accountability; and
Help overcome some of the mistrust caused by NAIS.
Q. How is this different from the old system?
A. This new approach will be focused entirely on animal disease traceability. It will be led and administered by the States and Tribal Nations. USDA’s role will be to provide support to the States and Tribal Nations, and to work cooperatively with them to ensure animal disease traceability standards are defined, measurable, and well documented. Once the standards are defined, States, Tribal Nations, and producers will determine what methods will work best for them to achieve animal disease traceability.
The new framework focuses only on animals that move in interstate commerce. So, small producers who raise animals and move them within a State, Tribal Nation, or to local markets, as well as to feed themselves, their families, and their neighbors are not a part of the framework’s scope and focus."
Read the entire 7 page PDF document at:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_health/content/printable_version/faq_traceability.pdf
If the link is broken into two lines in the message you receive, you will need to cut and paste both lines (without a break) into the URL address window of your browser. Or, google: Animal Disease Traceability Framework APHIS .
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