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Auctions with mostly empty booths?

Joined Apr 2014
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Greensburg, IN
I remember going to the first top 30 sales and seeing Eash's Buckeye antlers and Thunder. That was more interesting to me at that point than the sale itself. I was a newbie and seeing the horns and mounts is what started me buying deer. Today,are new people trying to start their herds not still the potential buyers for most of our breeding stock? Seeing the hard antlers and mounts at our booths will help breeding stock prices. We don't like to hall our taxidermy around. Each time we do hair is broken and a small amount of damage is done to each piece. Others must feel the same way. I don't think we will ever bring our booth again to a sale except the annual Nadefa conference which is more out of support for Nadefa than marketing our farm. I feel like we should charge a fee rather than be charged a fee to bring our taxidermy to the auctions. Just wondering others opinions or suggestions. I miss the days when I saw Redoy Bill, Jordan, Weatherby,Sundance,Gunsmoke, Bucky, Goliath and others at their farms booths in the auctions.
 
I think its wrong to charge people to set up. There would have to be limitations on the size and everyone be aloted the same. I know that all those displays of antlers and taxidermy get me pumped. If theres not much there its pretty boring to me. I can watch the sale from home or buy deer off the internet. I wish I could see those bucks you mentioned too. The first time I went to an auction, at the door was a full body mount of rdm goliath. I went inside there was Blue Mountain Bill and I was hooked!
 
I remember my first time at auction up north in 07'.. highroller was a full body mount at the door and there was a 250" yearling that everyone liked and little did I know then what he would become. His, name was Maxbo XL..if I knew then what I do now I would be rich!! Story of the deer biz
 
Our experience has been that having a booth really isn't worth it. At the different events people are either in an auction or at a seminar and spend very little time looking at the booths. There are a few people walking around, but there are so many other things going on it seems like very few have time to look around. I think whether it is NADEFA or an association event, there should be several hours set aside for just booth visits.
 
What kind of weirdo looks at antlers at a deer show? LOL!

Personally at the shows I used to go to, walking around looking at antlers and visiting with friends was THE BEST part of the show. Now note I said antlers. Not those fuzz cover imatation velvet racks with several inches added to them by a talented taxidermist. ;) Another funny thing to see was the mounts where the head looks to be the size of a chihuahua puppy. Seriously??? But truthfully pics often don't do a buck justice and seeing the bone live and in person is nice. But mostly the friendships made are invaluable.
 
Yah, what kind of goofy deer breeder would want to walk around and look at all the giant breeder bucks and antlers???? Come on, that's the best part!!
 
How can the auction companies get their booth space full again?

Eldon's suggestion is interesting about limiting booth size and offering everyone a spot. Maybe charging only for a larger size area would work. I believe the bids in the auction are higher when the booths are full and there is a trade show atmosphere in the building. I also believe full booth space is vital to promoting our industries future.
 
Just some thoughts....


1. All booths should be the same size area. (Maybe 12'x12' is adequate) No over sized booths for anyone despite how special you think you are. This way some of the smaller farms with less mounts and antlers to show don't feel so overwhelmed and out done and therefore stop trying. Also keeps costs and time wasted under control. Some folks have such elaborate booths that they take huge trailers to haul them. This blocks loading/unloading doors and causes the setup and tear down for everyone to take far longer.


2. Everyone with a booth is entered into a drawing for a ZERO commission sale in the associated auction. If they don't have a lot in the sale they can give that prize to another farm of their choice.


3. NO FEES for having a booth at the event. Anyone who wants a booth can set one up. All booth spaces are on a first reserved, first serve basis. NO exceptions! If you reserve a booth and don't set one up you owe $$$


4. A specific amount of time should be allotted during the event for booth visiting EACH DAY during either late morning or early afternoon hours.


5. Better security should be on hand 24 hours in the booth rooms and at the doors. I know of some who have had computers, antlers and mounts stolen. That said don't remove the ability of folks to gather at their booths for late night beverages and laughs. Some of the very best times at shows was during these late evening B.S. sessions. Plus bring your own (Don't ban coolers) is far cheaper than the over priced hotel lounges.


 


A. Separate from the booth discussion, I really liked the idea of a flat fee for the auction commission like PA is doing. I think folks feel better knowing up front what they are paying to sell/or no sale their lot for. I think this can also lead to better offerings because folks feel they can sell higher priced lots for the same money.
 
Those are some good ideas Roger!!! the first thing that comes to my mind is the Auction Companys would be taking a big pay cut,


 


would they be able to operate like that???
 
Roger

I like all the ideas.

Samuel,

I think commission dollars would increase enough because of more interest and bidding to offset the amount the auctions get from booth space payment. Again, I started buying deer because of the antlers I saw at the Top 30 sale not because of the catalog. The breeder auctions are critical to the promotion of our industry. Not seeing the booth space full is zapping us all.
 
great ideas roger!


little Johnny your too funny


It would draw people to auctions that really are not planning on buying if there are lots of booths there.


I look at the results from the Ohio sale and have to wonder where this industry is headed.


Does that would have brought 10K+  4-5 years ago bought for under 2K and 1K.  WOW


The semen prices from the bucks those does were out of (Bucky,Poncho, Maxbo Ranger) were some of the highest of all time, and best(proven) producing.


Express does selling for 3k????
 
There is the real world. Then there is the "get smart people on your side and trick the dummy" imaginary unrealistic planet crowd. People are getting smarter. The prices are getting where they should be based on our terminal market.

Our doe sold for a fair price. I probably made a mistake selling her and should have instead sold one of her daughters. Rick's comments about clean wide typical stockers bringing more by the inch are encouraging. I am content being a producer raising hunt bucks and limiting my doe going into the breeder market. We have tried not to exploit the typical lines we have worked hard to build.

Jerri Lee

When I went to my first top 30 sale I had no money. I drove a van of Amishmen to Missouri. I normally wasn't a driver for the Amish but I wanted to see the deer. The next year I went with some money. I started buying animals because of the antlers I saw there.