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Blood TB Testing

Whitetail Sanctuary said:
Why can they NOT wait to KILL the deer.....................Until the test comes back?

Then see if it needs destroyed ?



The test did come back twice on that doe positive, they killed her a week later to remove the lymph nodes. Those preliminaries came back negative, still under quarantine until they see f the virus grows...60 days

Both Blood tests results in march and july came back two days later...
 
My experience is right on with Rocky Cedar. The state and USDA vets looked at the lungs when they took lymph nodes and said that the lungs were clear and they were certain that the doe was TB free. I was told that the blood test is indicated by a color change and they were trying to determine at what stage of color change would a cervid be positive or negative. I was told that my doe's test indicated a slight change in color. I would also add that I was told by the USDA vet that there has never been a confined cervid ever have a confirmed case of TB.
 
Procedurally, with the skin test, when you get a positive, the deer is simply retested on the other side and those measurements are placed on a chart. Are you saying that the blood was drawn, showed positive and in order to confirm or deny that, the deer had to be put down? So, to determine if a positive is a false positive, the deer must be killed?
 
After one came back positive the state vet came back and retested her after she fawned. That second test also came back positive. I had pulled the fawns just in case she came back positive with the second test. I was compensated the full $3000.00 allowed for her as she appraised higher. On a cool June morning the state vet and a USDA vet came to the house. I darted the doe and she was then dispatched with a bolt gun after the forms are filled out. They took the lymph nodes for the cultures and looked at the lungs, I then buried the carcass. I am under quarrantine until the culture comes back.
 
Hollowroad Whitetails said:
Procedurally, with the skin test, when you get a positive, the deer is simply retested on the other side and those measurements are placed on a chart. Are you saying that the blood was drawn, showed positive and in order to confirm or deny that, the deer had to be put down? So, to determine if a positive is a false positive, the deer must be killed?



Yup....That's exactly how it worked...
 
Whitetail Sanctuary said:
So how is the "suspect" deer put down? Who does it ?



2 State vets came to the house on Friday Morning. I darted her, they then went and slit her throat. Cut her open at my place, took the lymph nodes and left the carcass for me....
 
The blood test was supposed to be a positive for us, saving deer farmers the time, expense and animal stress involved with the old testing method. However, without a confirmation test that doesn't require the brutal dispatching of our animals, who would ever take the risk. This is something our state and national organizations must lobby for, either come up with a confirmatory blood test with more accurate analysis to determine a false positive without dispatching the animal or allow for a follow up skin test to prevent having to dispatch the animal. I built an entire handling facility to test my deer, I questioned that decision after I learned of the blood test. I am no longer questioning my decision, the investment was well worth it. I can't imagine losing even one of my deer to something so ridiculous.
 
IndependenceRanch said:
Do NOT use the new test. It's crap. At least for now.



Like I said earlier, do NOT use the new test because it is just crap. At some point if pressured to improve upon the test AND the way they handle suspects maybe the new test will make sense. Until then it is just another hoop we are supposed to jump through and be subjected to biased treatment.
 
There is not another industry that would allow the killing of one of their animals to make a test work. We should all expect a better method for testing our animals. When does it make sinse to kill an animal to see if it is sick or not? I'm not sure on this but I don't think if you allow the animal to be killed to clear your herd you are even paid for that animal even if it is healthy. Why are we so willing to allow this with our animals on a test that is proving to be worthless at this time?
 
Jack said:
There is not another industry that would allow the killing of one of their animals to make a test work. We should all expect a better method for testing our animals. When does it make sinse to kill an animal to see if it is sick or not? I'm not sure on this but I don't think if you allow the animal to be killed to clear your herd you are even paid for that animal even if it is healthy. Why are we so willing to allow this with our animals on a test that is proving to be worthless at this time?



The indemnity price has a maximum of $3000.00
 
rocky cedar whitetails said:
Well I can say this from first hand experience, we tested 20 animals in march (7 months ago), two deer tested positive for TB with the new blood test. First they wanted to kill the entire herd here in Missouri and I received the quarantine at 7 in the morning on a Saturday. Many people got involved for me I.E. Nathan Blosser, Shawn Schafer and Kevin Grace. By noon on Saturday with the help from those listed the government was just going to kill those two does. By the end of the day they decided to make a decision on Monday. On Monday the phone call came from the state vet. and they asked me if I wanted to wait and do a re-test after the two does fawn but I would remain in quarantine. I said yes, so we re-tested the two does in july and the next day one of the two does that tested positive in march came back negative on the second test. The other doe was positive again so the following week they put her down and paid indemnity for her. Two days later I received a phone call from Jefferson city that the preliminaries showed that she was negative for T.B. but I was still under quarantine for about 60 days (October 1st) to see if they could grow the virus....That's my story, you decide what you want to deal with, Hope that helps.....troy



How many cattle and other ruminants do you suppose are sold each week in Missouri, possibly leaving or entering the state, that could possibly be carrying TB/BR and have NEVER been tested and are NOT breaking the law? And do those cattle farms have fences that will disallow the state's wild herd to have nose-to-nose contact with the animals inside the fence? Will their fences keep a whitetail from jumping in to munch on the chicory and clover in the pasture? True definition of hypocrisy if you ask me. Makes me sick.