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UPDATE: The other Doe that was in the pen with the fawn would not let him eat what so ever. So we were going to move him in with several other Does to see if they would accept him. There were three of us out trying to move him, My dad happened to be in our fawn facilitly kinda hiding behind the open door, ready to help when needed. As we were moving him to a smaller pen (it was connected to the facilitly) He ran right into the fawn facilitly on his own! We were all kinda shocked lol. I'm suprised that he didn't run back out b/c we stood there in shock long enough for him to bolt! The last two days we have worked with him constantly. For the first day, we put him in a stall and talked to him and petted him for hours, backing off for a bit when we thought he was stressing to much. Today i have walked out to the pen every 20 mins. or so. At times setting with the other fawns and petting them. I swear he looks at me like he really wants to come over but is to afraid lol. I can walk to him and pet him and talk to him without him taking off for the first minute. He has not taken a bottle but is drinking red cap from a bowl, he is also drinking water and eating pellets. I really want to thank everyone again for all the input!!! You guys are really a life saver!!! I hope one day i can return the help you have given me. God Bless! I'll keep updating, hoping he calms down even more. I am really suprised he is as calm as he is now!

NYBill said:

Roger, you and I both know how darting often goes! BTW, how the heck have you been? Oh and yes Shan, Im still wishing you the best!!!

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Thanks Bill!

WhitetailWomen - Very doubtful and in my opinion flatout impossible to be able to start a month old fawn on the bottle, especially one that is as wild as you say. So I would say option #1 is out. And option #2 is out for reasons you have mentioned. I think your best option is to put him with other does that are feeding fawns and hope he gets adopted, which in all likelihood he will, and put him in the pen with the most mommas to better insure his adoption. Are you wanting to dart this fawn just for his capture/removal and not to treat?? We catch older fawns often by simply cornering them, and yes they will hit the fence but we have never had one hurt itself. Depending on ground cover, it is apt to take as many as 5 people to corner and catch him. You work him to a corner, put someone on each side hugging the fence, semi circle him, stay even, hands all spread out to create a wall affect, and move in. There is a point in time as you close the gap that he will turn and begin to continually bang the fence, great time to then rush him and grab him. Remember to stay even, and when he starts someone's way to escape, it is important to wave arms and let him know you are there. Don't know how long you will have to contain him to do what you want with him once he is caught, but if it will be awhile, you might want to syringe 1/4cc of tranq in him to put him out. Not often, but it has happened: Whenever we have had to hold a fawn any length of time, and it has always happened to the most ''wild and bawling'' fawns, we will find them dead the next day with all fours straight out, dead from stress. And just so you know, a common denominator to the few fawns this has happened to was this: they all suds a bit at the mouth by the time we were done with them and released them - fyi. So, if the time to contain him is not long, just make sure his head/eyes are covered and he wiil be fine for the move. If you do not have any does feeding fawns for him to be adopted, it is not impossible that he could make it on his own. It would be best/necessary for him to have access to fresh/natural browse cause he's apt not to be eating much or a significant amount of grain at this time, yet of course provide grain and fresh water. Fresh cut tree branches that deer in your area eat would be a food source this little guy would more readily eat than anything else. As advised by others, if darting, use a 1/2cc dart. Good luck!

Wow! Did not pay attention enough to see page 2 and 3. Sorry, could have saved you reading alot of duplicating advice, and me alot of typing, and I'm not a typer.

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Whitetail Woman- If he is eating pellets and drinking milk from a bowl I'd say you saved him. Good job.

Sandridge Whitetails said:

Wow! Did not pay attention enough to see page 2 and 3. Sorry, could have saved you reading alot of duplicating advice, and me alot of typing, and I'm not a typer.

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LOL Thanks! I don't mind reading any advice even if i have already done whatever it is that needs to be done. Sorry bout having to type.

Uncle Harley said:

lol sandridge





Whitetail Woman- If he is eating pellets and drinking milk from a bowl I'd say you saved him. Good job.

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Thanks Harley, He has refused milk all day today, but has continued to drink water and eat the pellets. Might get some replacer to add to the pellets. He seems to be fine, runs and plays with the other fawns but i am keeping a close eye on him still!

Sitting down on the floor always helps in bonding with animals. Also, try not looking at them straight in the eyes as this is a sign on agression. I've had a lot of experience with cattle and horses, and their handling without stress, and am now applying these same principles with by deer. They seem to be working.



There's a great book called Animals in Translation by a woman named Temple Grandin. Its definitively help me in handling my deer, both young and old.



Hope this helps.



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Thanks E I will be looking that book up. I have went out and sat with the other fawns and played and petted them, he seems to want to come over but only stands and watches.