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CWD Live Test Research Project

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Garnett, Kansas
From the American Cervid Alliance News Room

December 18, 2013

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With the recent CWD positive animal found in a Wisconsin hunting ranch, we all are realizing the importance of a live CWD test.  With a live CWD test, CWD will no longer be a disease that threatens our industry like it currently does.


During the last American Cervid Alliance council meeting, leaders discussed the possibility of a live test and the benefits it could bring to the industry.  We have found a research facility that is developing a blood test to detect CWD in an infected animal and they are also conducting research to determine how soon after infection can they detect the disease with a blood test.

 

This research is well underway and is looking very promising, but more funds are needed to validate a blood test as a live test for CWD.  The ACA is proposing that each cervid farmer in North America donate at least $5.00 per animal to further the live CWD research.  In order for this fundraiser to be successful, we need everyone who raises cervids to donate to the cause whatever they can afford to donate.


The following platinum, gold, silver, bronze and Patron sponsorships are available.


Platinum: $25 per animal

Gold: $20 per animal

Silver: $15 per animal

Bronze: $10 per animal

Patron: $5 per animal


All funds generated for this project will be earmarked and will be used only for CWD research.  An accounting of all the donations will be posted in publications and the ACA Website on a regular basis.  Everyone who donates to this research will be recognized and be furnished with a financial statement.


Donations for this project can be made in two different ways.  Donations can be made directly to the American Cervid Alliance (ACA) or The Wisconsin Cervid Farmers Foundation (WCFF). The Wisconsin Cervid Farmers Foundation a 501c3 foundation of the Whitetails of Wisconsin association.   For the folks who are fortunate enough to need a tax deduction for 2013, there is still time to write a check to qualify for this year's taxes!


Please mail contributions to: payable to either designation


American Cervid Alliance

4985 West Blue Hill Rd

Ayr, Nebraska, 68925


Thank you in advance for your support


 


http://www.americancervidalliance.org/news.cfm?id=83
 
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From the American Cervid Alliance News Room

December 20, 2013

18pxCWD Live Test Research Update!



In response to the recent Wisconsin CWD finding, during the December ACA Council meeting, leaders discussed long term goals of coping with CWD that included working toward a live CWD test and CWD vaccine.  Barry Chernuka, councilman for the Alberta Elk Commission, and Ian Thorleifson, councilman for the Canadian Cervid Alliance, updated the ACA council regarding the CWD vaccine stating the project was well underway with sufficient funding.  In discussing possibilities of a live CWD test, Barry Chernuka mentioned that a CWD infected elk herd in Canada will be depopulated shortly after the first of the year.


The ACA council members realized the need to act as soon as possible in order to retrieve samples from this infected herd that could be instrumental in this necessary research.  The council directed Laurie Seale and Barry Chernuka to coordinate in order to retrieve the samples prior to the herd's depopulation.

 

In order to raise the necessary revenue to assist in the cost of securing the much needed samples, a news release outlining the ACA's suggestion for raising this money was sent to the industry.  There is a herd in the United States in which we would also like to retrieve blood, tonsil and rectal tissues. If the industry is serious about finding a live test for CWD, this fundraising project will be the first phase in securing naturally infected CWD tissues for future research.

 

The second phase of this project is selecting a research facility that has proven experience working on a live test.  Colorado State University (CSU) recently released a research paper that shows promise for a possible live CWD screening test.  The sensitivity and specificity of this particular blood test appears to be very high when compared to the rectal biopsy CWD test.  CSU is currently conducting research to determine at what stage the blood test is able to detect the CWD infection in experimentally infected animals.

 

The ACA is interested in hearing from anyone that may have more information on other CWD blood test research being conducted that would benefit the industry.  The industry needs to be sure to utilize the industry's money as wisely as possible.  There has been research conducted over the past 10 years using tonsil and rectal biopsy tissues, but those live tests are very invasive and not as humane as a simple blood test. It only makes sense to financially support blood test research at this time.  The CWD vaccine research being conducted in Canada has secured the additional funding to finish their current study, but could be years from having a vaccine approved for CWD prevention.


There are those who have reservations about the blood test research, but one thing is certain; if research doesn't go forward deer and elk farmers will continue to destroy valuable, healthy animals to prove they do not have the disease.  The cervid industry has been forced to kill far more animals in the name of regulatory oversight than this dreaded disease will ever kill on its own.


Research takes money and the cervid industry has to take the lead and secure that funding in order to facilitate the process.  More details will be forthcoming as soon as we know more.


 


http://www.americancervidalliance.org/news.cfm?id=84
 
Travis,


"There are those who have reservations about the blood test research"


 


what reservations would there be??  about how the research was done? or a blood test itself?


 


 


We should all be for a live blood test. That is our only way to even try to get out of all this mess.


 


Jerrilee
 
Jerillee,


I think some may have reservations about the blood test in general, perhaps in regard to its accuracy or getting it approved.  Same could be said for the CWD vaccine. 


 


One thing I’d say is, we, as an industry, need to be working on all these things because the status quo is unacceptable.  We have to help ourselves.  And we are grateful to all the folks that sent emails the last couple of days pledging their support.  
 
Do we have any idea what kind of accuracy that the government will want? Do you/we as an industry know what the accuracy of the tb test is? The accuracy looks very promising from the first research and i was surprised by the accuracy of the rectal biopsy in the study as to what has been discussed here in the past, or what the government would like us to think. When its all said and done we may have 2 live test to choose from with the blood test being much less cumbersome and less costly.
 
Jerrilee,   Our state board met with our BAH last Wed.   This was discussed.   The old TB test, we have used forever, was only around 50% accurate.  Our state Vet. feels the rectal biopsy is around 70%.   The challenge will be to get the Feds. to approve it!!!!!  


Gary
 
Gary,

Did they say what the accuracy of the tb blood test was? I'm thinking it is around 85%, that's what i recall, but I've slept a Few days since then lol

Jerrilee
 
Is ACA looking at all to form their own Health Foundation 501c(3) to be able to collect tax deductible contributions?  
 
I don't recall, ask Shawn, he was on top of the blood test.


It would be a great help if the pledges are tax deductable.


Gary
 
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I don't recall, ask Shawn, he was on top of the blood test.


It would be a great help if the pledges are tax deductable.


Gary




Any ideas on a dollar figure needed? 
 
Laurie is the one to ask on dollar amount if Travis doesn't know. She talked to the people doing the research last week. They are working on more research as we speak to determine how long it takes for the blood to turn positive once they are infected. My assessment is we need more numbers than were used in the initial research before the usda will approve the test.
 
It's going to take a strong effort by everyone to achieve this. If we have a live test, it will change our lives. How could they keep borders closed then???

Gary
 
After what i listened to last week during our public comment period the test will need to be better numbers then the tb tests and if its blood it will have to detect very early in the deer's age!   Of Course that was coming from state vet's from this state.  Funny how one state can say its not a threat to animals or the public and yet another state says this could and will be the end all.  Yet both states lock things down. 


 


I think in some states the only thing that is going to change any minds or thinking is time or lawyers.  The time will prove cwd is not going to end the whitetail world as we know it or the lawyers will have to prove we are being singled out in so many ways. Both will cost lots of money and for many that will no longer be an option!
 
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Is ACA looking at all to form their own Health Foundation 501c(3) to be able to collect tax deductible contributions?  




 


'times new roman', serif  Jim,


'times new roman', serif Several member associations have requested this be discussed during our next ACA meeting in January so it is very possible but depends of the will of our majority. 501c3’s are relatively easy to set up so this could be beneficial for our united industry.  A few of our member associations do have 501c3 foundations of their own at this time.  For example, for anyone wishing to donate for this project and send donations to the Wisconsin Cervid Farmers Foundation, which is Whitetails of Wisconsin's 501c3.  Full accounting will be given to donors and the ACA member associations at our monthly meetings.  Also, The ACA has a new page on our website where we can list names of donors.


 


 


'times new roman', serif Thanks!


 


'times new roman', serif Travis
 
To answer the question on the TB blood test, from what I can remember from previous presentations, the TB blood test has somewhere around a 75 sensitivity.  The CWD blood test research paper shows a 90% sensitivity.  This same research facility is currently doing a study to determine when the blood test can identify a CWD infected animal.  We will not know the results of that research until early 2014.  


 


CSU did send a proposal for more CWD blood test research and that information will be forthcoming in future ACA alert.  The dollar amount proposed is attainable if the industry determines that this particular blood test is going to be a live test that has a chance of being validated in the near future.  We need more CWD exposed samples in order to conduct more research if this blood test has the chance to be validated as a live test.  The ACA is in the process of finding out from USDA how many samples it will take in order to validate.  All of this information will be presented to the industry when we have more answers.  The ACA also has forwarded the research paper to a number of other professionals in order to determine if this research is credible.  
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This below is from the NADEFA news release...

 

"Which brings me to a side note on CWD testing. There has been a lot of discussion about a live test for CWD, and I have received a lot of calls asking for my opinion and where NADeFA stands on research for a live test. I want to reassure everyone that NADeFA is very involved in all aspects of research for every disease that affects all cervids - TB, CWD, EHD and whatever else is thrown our way. NADeFA and our Cervid Livestock Foundation (CLF)  currently are financially supporting EHD vector control and vaccine research with the Agriculture Research Service in Kansas and a CWD nutritional control project at the National Wildlife Disease Research Center in Colorado. We are also monitoring the CWD vaccine trial being conducted in elk at the Sybille Wildlife Research Center, as I am in discussions  to conduct this same CWD vaccine trial in whitetails, and believe we may have located a contaminated facility that would fit our needs. As CWD is being found in more locations throughout North America, the importance of CWD prevention or control is increasing. Right now our only defense is double fencing, if we can find a vaccine or a nutritional supplement to prevent CWD we would be able to put CWD behind us. As for a live test, I believe we already have one that will work for our current situation. I have been working hard with key regulators and researchers to explore the option of tonsil biopsies to be used on an individual bases, not for whole herd certification, but to clear those few animals and release the quarantines. We need to be careful how we approach this as I do not feel we need to do any live testing until the DNA testing is completed. "If" the DNA does tie back to the breeding farm, then we need to push for the epi investigation to narrow down the quarantines to only those animals that were truly exposed and then move forward with testing to clear them. With the lack of indemnity for CWD, I feel the tonsil test should be the preferred option over putting animals down. I do not support putting down animals without compensation or if other options are available."


 


 


Did I read this correctly? Is NADEFA going to get on board with a live test, perferably blood or not? I see the tonsil test is an option but lets just get our herds Cert. and be done. I am of the mind that there should not be one dollar spent on anything but putting this whole CWD BS to bed. Aside from the regulatory agencies saying CWD is no longer an issue you do not have to test, which will never happen. How can they say anything once an approved live test is done to all animals on your farm.


 


  Having a vaccine is great and a nutritional program, not really sure what that is...These are band-aids really. I frankly am rather sick of all this crap with CWD. I would encourage everyone to support whatever they feel they must to remain doing buisness. ACA my check is on the way for the blood test research.


 


Sorry for the thread high jack!
 
I agree with Josh. Oh I have more to say on this, but I best wait and think it over some before responding. Hmmm, that is progress for me. Thinking before speaking! LOL

Time to blow the snow out of my driveway :)
 
Well lets see...If cwd can just..show up..as they say in a deer at any age and at any time how would you ever be able to have a..certified herd..with any kind of test?


Blood test of my animals today shows im clean. I dont sell any animals for 3 months and in that time frame i had cwd just..show up. Then i sell that deer to you without any other testing and now you have a cwd positive in your herd.  It will never be put to bed untill cwd is accepted for what it is and what is does. 


 


Trust me when i say there are many out there that will not just accept it for what is is reguardless of what side of the fence the deer stands on. Even when they know for a 100% fact that reguardless of what they do, they will never 100% stop the spread of cwd.  Its all about risk to many!   Crazy stuff when you listen to them!
 
Josh,


It wasn't nadefas idea that's why they don't support it.

They have put money into reasearch for the vaccine.


 


Although a vaccine would be great news for the industry, a live test  would mean less people would vaccinate than if vaccination was the only option. A vaccine is all well and good, but how do you enforce vaccination of animals???How effective will the vaccine be??? what will the cost be? will the usda accept  this to let animals move? Will borders reopen with a vaccine?  You could spend money vaccinating your animals, still have a + and have to destroy your whole herd. With a live test whole herd destruction should become a thing of the past and borders should open up if testing is implemented.


I would rather have a live blood test myself than to put my animals down for tonsil or rectal biopsy.


If a live test is accepted this is my thought

Test heads from dead animals with some relief from 100% testing for those that have been in the program longer and a blood test for those animals moving from state to state or herd to herd,except those moving to a terminal facility.

If a farm has a positive then all Animals have to be blood tested and retested at certain yearly intervals. What needs to be determined is when is an animal able to pass it on after being infected, how long it takes to seroconvert and that would tell you how long the interval to testing would be.
 
One has to wonder how long we have to keep proving our animals as being the cleanest in the livestock industry. In 2006 at the height of the BSE scare, there were 40,000 bovine brain samples tested. There are over 100,000 cattle slaughtered in this country every day Monday through Friday. That is 26,000,000 per year! That means that we tested .0015% in 2006! Today,( according to my usda source in Oklahoma) we test animals that ONLY have clinical symptoms of BSE. When CWD came on the scene in 2000, we were trying so hard to prove our innocence and our right to stay in business that we gave and gave to the point that some states were willing to test 100% of all deaths on farm or inside hunt ranches. Today, we are still trying to subject ourselves to more testing and keeping CWD on the front burner. It appears to me that we are just gonna regulate and test ourselves right out of business, or test ourselves to the point that all borders will be closed.


 


Please don't misunderstand the intent of my post. It's not that I don't appreciate the hard work and efforts of so many of you that are trying to do the best for everyone, it's just that I don't think we have to keep subjecting ourselves to so much scrutiny. My opinion, spend monies on litigation (and I can't stand that)! I think to many years of giving has turned into the mess we see today!