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Doe with chronic diarreah

Joined Oct 2011
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Columbia City, IN
Hi guy's, I've searched a bunch of old forums looking for clues but can't find anything. I'd like your input...



I've had a particular doe that I bought a couple years ago that has had terrible diarreah ever since I've had her, and I guess the previous owner noticed it too.



I always switch between wormers, I've had "negative" fecal tests done, used Corrid in the water, Ivomec injectable, etc. etc. She will only clear up for a day or 2 and then it comes back. She appears to be in good health, eats well, calm and tame and she a great producer. Any ideas??? Can deer contract bowel issues like this? Thanks in advance!
 
She could be allergic to somthing in the feed specialy if she is with other deer and is the only one having problems.
 
The vet checked for worms and parasites and there was an additional one that I can't recall, but thats when they recommended the Corrid. But still to no avail.



Good idea on the feed Virgil, I may try something a little different, but the orginal owner mixed his own and I get mine from ADM and she still has it.
 
I think i would have another test done for coccida. I had the same problem with a doe in brought in and they didnt find it untill the second test. I treated her heavy with corrid and the whole group the regular dose. I also treated that doe with valbazen. Cant say 100% which one cleared her up but i would guess the corrid. If you do mix in the valbazen for treatment remember... Do not use on bred does!!!!
 
The rumen is a funny thing. It could be a diet issue. But if you have not tried yet i would start her on a probiotic regiment. This will help her replenish any of the good bacteria in the chambers of the stomach and intestines that other wise are being flushed out by the squirts. This will also help her absorb more nutritional properties out of the food. Some times with the squirts the food moves so fast through the system that there missing key nutrients that they need. There are great products out there from both Shock Effect and Target that work very well as top dressing. Personally I use Shock Effect and am very happy with it.



Next is Fiber. Fiber from forage or greens. Any time we can give the deer greens such as Alfalfa along with our pellet/ textured feed it allows for a well balanced diet. Fiber also helps in slowing down the digestion process witch will in return provide another source for nutrient absorption.



It sounds like you have a great regiment in that over all the deer and your herd are healthy. These are some suggestions that i have if they can help. After a negative worm test this is where i would start.



Good luck,
 
Could be any thing in the feed though the corn ,beans, molasses or what ever else might be in there. Almost have to mix her her own batch of feed and see how she reacts after taking certain thing out. May even be a way to do a test not sure.
 
Todd,

I'd try my old stand by for chronic diarreah which is two shots of Micitil 300 48 hours apart. Seems to clear up that diarreah stuff. I would also test her for johnies disease which I think is a blood test.
 
Wayne,

It is 1 1/2 cc per hundred pounds SQ only. I feel I should warn anyone out there using this drug that it will kill people if injected into people or gets in hand cuts so ware rubber golves when injecting your deer. I have given it to PG does with no problem. Of course this is off lable use for deer and only for sheep and cattle and only my personal opinion. bla bla bla
 
Jerry,

My guess is yes. Cattle have given my elk pink eye. Cattle introduced TB into North America as I understand it. Other cattle diseases like bangs are now in the wild herds of elk in Montana and other western States. I have a friend in another State that thinks his sheep have BVD. I see no reason why deer and elk couldn't get BVD.
 
Thanks for the great ideas!



I've actually been wanting to try out the shock effect product since it's a more natural way to regulate the body and digestive system in the critters.



Mike-Coccida was actually the other thing the checked for in the fecal test, thanks.



Jack- I'm pretty intrerested in the micitil solution if it's that powerful.



I'll let you guy's know what happens. Thanks!
 
Thanks Jack. Just thought I would mention BVD, but I didn't know for sure if deer could get it. I never heard of any deer farmers testing or having a case on there farm.
 
Can deer get Johnes? If so, there's only one treatment for that, and it is of the "final destination" variety.
 
Todd



If your going to be at the Top 30 stop by the Shock Effect Booth and we can answer any questions you have about Probiotics or any of the products we have available.
 
Todd,

I have had does with green slime all over their hind quarters. I have tried every other drug as my Vet doesn't like the idea of deer farmers using this drug because of the possability of death if injected. The first shot will have them doing hard droppings and the second will have them pelleting. On real bad ones I have given a third shot. I do think something like Shock Effect will help them build a good gut bacteria back up after treatment. With whatever I have this treatment will stop it and it does not come back.

Jeff,

Deer can get Johnes disease as one of the old elk guys had it in his elk. He had a massive testing going on and any that were reacting were killed. He never did get it gone and went out of business because of the Initiative which stopped shooting elk and deer behind eight foot fence in Montana in 2000.
 
Thanks Jack! My livestock experience is more extensive with cows, and I know what Johnes is all about in them. Knowing this, biosecurity should be (even more) of a huge issue for deer farmers. Are people considering this when having visitors on their farms?
 
Thanks for the info Jack picked up a bottle of Micitil today and yes my vet gave me strict instructions on handling this drug!
 
Wayne,

Sure would like to know if this works for you. Please email me either way. I had an elk calf with slime for three weeks and got him in and treated. He is fine now with no problems.Thanks.
 

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