Kurt-
Believe it or not, his dam is a Bert / Springstroh's Bucky. I bought a buck from Dave Sisk a few year's back and also bought this doe. The Bucky doe is the mother of that buck, Wishbone. Wishbone was a BJ2 son on the sire side. He was a great producer and I thought that crossing DD with that Bert doe would add that BJ2 back to a deeper pedigree. If you look at Dutch, he is the exact cross of the two bucks - DD and Bert. Bert was 29" wide inside and scored 208" as a 5 x 5 with 5 small stickers. Big frame. Bert just never got any publicity. Again, my does were not named does until my 3rd year of breeding DD. I am anxious to see what those named genes will produce. Bert produced some really typical stuff for me, and we shot all of his sons in our preserve. All big framed so he has some inheritability. Every DD / Bert cross has produced big framed stuff for me. I have 1 other 3 year old and two 2 year olds that are that cross.