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Hi Everyone



Just figured I would post some pictures of an incident that happend to a friends deer yesterday. We have not been able to figure out exactly what she did, but it looks like she hooked an area of skin on something when she was laying down and when she stood up she tore herself open. Everyone is worried about the fawns she is carrying, But I feel we had no choice but to put her down and risk the fawns. She was up and eating 30-45 minutes after the procedure. We had thought about a c-section but without knowing how far along the fawns were we figured that would not be smart. We darted her with Xylazine and Telazol, Administered a local with lidacaine, trimmed away any dead tissue which was very minimal, cleaned the area very good with betadine and stiched her up. After stiching her up we sprayed the area heavy with Alumashield, gave her shots of pennacilin and Banamine.

Please let me know if anyone would have handled this differently. We did this with a vet who has never worked on deer, and we are all fairly new to deer farming. Just looking for any advice going forwrd. Thanks for your help.
 

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Joe,

Nothing else you could do here but take the chance for all animals concerned, fawns and doe. Good call.
 
Joe I think by the pictures you did an awesome job........I am not sure I would leave the fawns on mom when she has them....I think it would be quite painful for her to be nursing a fawn or fawns.....just my opinion.....she looks like she was bagging up pretty good...I am thinking the fawns are pretty close to being born......
 
I agree with Jack and Dennis, by the looks of the photos You made the right decision and did an excellent job. It just make goes to show the attention and care the ole Deer Farmer puts into taking care of and watching over their animals. Keep us posted on her and her fawns progress. Good Luck.
 
I would be concerned about gangrenous mastitis. Injuries to the udder can cause this. Treatment is quite rigorous and will require access to the udder daily to milk and treat it if this occurs. I too would pull the fawns after they got the collostrum, just to prevent them from nursing on contaminated milk.
 
I would give her a nice shot of Draxxin which is a longer acting antibiotic and ask a DVM if this is ok to use in pregnant does. Excede may also be a good antibiotic to use for a skin infection. Mastititis would be pretty obvious if it occurred wouldn't it???
 
Did you consider general uteral prolapse?? Maybe meant to happen...I had a doe that fawned two and then prolapsed; however, I have seen gilts and sows prolapse prior to farriwng piglets. I wonder if that was what happened? Prolapse prior to birthing?
 
Just a quick update.

The doe is doing great so far. Eating, drinking, interacting with the other deer.

She is a 11 year old doe. The gentleman that owns the deer is giving a follow up shot of draxxin this afternoon. Thank you to everyone for your knowledge and advice. He has made the decision to pull the fawns no matter what they are if they survived the ordeal.

The good thing about this doe, she will take a treat from your hand so you can get very close to see what is going on. Thanks again for the advise.

Just wanted to let Dear John know other than the pens being in a natural environment

( wooded ) the pens are as clean as they can be. I do respect your advise Dear John, but you do have away with words that could PI$$ the nicest guy in the world off. Your comments are very seldom ever proactive, just sarcastic. Enough said.

Thanks to all who care and offer there wisdom and knowledge.
 
Majestic Whitetails said:
Just a quick update.

The doe is doing great so far. Eating, drinking, interacting with the other deer.

She is a 11 year old doe. The gentleman that owns the deer is giving a follow up shot of draxxin this afternoon. Thank you to everyone for your knowledge and advice. He has made the decision to pull the fawns no matter what they are if they survived the ordeal.

The good thing about this doe, she will take a treat from your hand so you can get very close to see what is going on. Thanks again for the advise.

Just wanted to let Dear John know other than the pens being in a natural environment

( wooded ) the pens are as clean as they can be. I do respect your advise Dear John, but you do have away with words that could PI$$ the nicest guy in the world off. Your comments are very seldom ever proactive, just sarcastic. Enough said.

Thanks to all who care and offer there wisdom and knowledge.
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http://www.deerforums.com/vbforums/search.php?searchid=585797 check out my post. I am not a fluffy poster . get a grip . Also I don't believe, your pens are clean. Or ma-by it was like a cattle mutilation.:eek:
 
Dear John if you would like to carry this on send me a private email. I believe this site is for constructive communication.

Or feel free to call me at ( 513 ) 515-6216



Thanks Joe
 
I'm so glad you followed up with the Draxxin. Excede also works well on cervids and has a 9-day active period, and works great on skin, or topical infections.



Also, please confirm with a DVM or with Scott Heinrich, but Dexamethasone works better to reduce swelling than Banamine in certain situations. Banamine has been known to cause ulcers in the GI tract... Just a head's up.



As for the injurt itself... is it possible that an animal attacked the doe? Let's not assume that it was necessarily something in the pen that might have ripped her, poor girl... I'm so glad that there are guys/gals out there who know how to care for deer so well that they can/decide to keep them alive for so many years! May she have a long, happy, life, whether fertile or not. Please post a pic of her babies when they come- I am confident that they will be fine!
 
I would also be concerned for the doe once the fawns do start to nurse, they my re-open the wound, even slightly and get flys in there. I would say pull the fawns all together and bottle feed them, maybe even try to place on another doe who is nursing with one fawn. Just safety for the doe, espicially an 11 year old doe
 
I would double check on using Dex on a pregnant doe. I have been advised not to use steroids on pregnant does or fawns.
 
Just a word of advice................DO NOT GIVE ANY DEXTAMETHASONE to your pregnant doe! Stick with the Bannimine atleast till she fawns.
 
Wayne is correct......NO DEX! In addition I would recommend a long acting penicillin as opposed to draxxin, naxcell or excede. I have found that it works much better for injuries that are "open-wound" type and it is the most effective way to prevent/fight mastitis. I would give her 10cc SQ as a loading dose and 5ccSQ daily for 5 days. Also give plenty of probiotics during the antibiotic regiment.
 

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