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Frustrated Coccidia

Joined Apr 2009
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Fombell PA
Guys i have a fawn who has been ill now for about 4 days....at first he quit eating completely.....he has severe runny diarreaha......went to my vets and he said to treat with 6cc albon twice a day.......plus he gave me a steriod to stimulate his apetite.......he eats a bottle ok...enough to get by but not like he used too so his apetite is still not good.......tonight when feeding him he ate ok and as i was feeding him i noticed he was trying to go to the bathroom....well only two drops came out and they were basically pure red blood.....I am suspecting coccidia.......I lost a few to this last year....am i not treating it aggresively enough......is their a better way than the albon? i can't seem to ever win against this stuff. lease advice is needed soon....i am going to treat all my other fawns with some drops of corrid in their drinking water.......they were all given the C&D at birth and some are due for their boosters right about now......but not all of them are due for bossters yet......please help!!
 
Dennis, are you sure your dealing with Coccidia? Did your vet test to see if it may be Ecoli or Salmonella. Just checking to see if all bases are covered.
 
Not sure tomorrow we will be taking the fawn down to vet to get him checked over completely......sure looks like coccidia to me......but you never know till you confirm....I've been able to keep his apetite to where he is not getting dehydrated but he just doesn't seem to be able to break it.
 
Dennis-



Just wondering how your fawn is doing?



We've just went through our first Coccidia and had to pull a 6 week old buck fawn from the mother. He is still alive, but very weak still.



This all happened last Thursday night and Friday brought him to the vet. Treated him with Lactated Ringers to get him hydrated for 2 days, generic Albon (can't remember name...sulfa stuff) 5cc orally for 5 days, 1cc Baytril for 5 days and .15cc of Banamine for 3 days.



Tried to put back with mother after 4 days and she wouldn't take him back. He is now in the sick pen and doing as well as can be expected...I guess. I take the water away at night and put formula in a pail and he generally drinks 11-16 oz during the night.







Question that I have for anyone is....is he going to make it (with the age that he is) drinking such a little amount of formula each day? Of course, he has greens, hay, dirt, pellets and water (during the day) in front of him at all times. So what does everyone think of his chances of survival?



We have since treated all our doe pens since they are all connected and seem to have had no other cases. We did suspect his womb brother had it also, thus the reason to treat all the pens. His womb brother appeared 100% better after 1 day of treating through the water and totally healthy right now.
 
At six weeks old if he is taking in greens, pellets,and hay etc. along with some formula, If you have the sickness beat he should be OK. A little stunted, but would catch up in the long run. Just my opinion, Good luck Allen
 
we actually weaned a fawn born in Aug last year at 6 weeks, she is now our biggest yearling
 
Well....he died last night. Don't understand it....one night drank 18oz formula, chewing cud during the day, eating greens and looking fairly good...next night dead!!



Good thing I grew up raising cattle and pigs on a farm...I'm more prepared for this. I know that every animal doesn't make it. Randy's having a real hard time though with losing livestock. He's got alot of learning to do.
 
Sorry Susan,

I'm still battling mine.........problem is you fill them with antibiotics and then you kill off all the bacteria in their stomachs that they need to digest....it is a hard, hard battle to win if you don't catch it early..........mine was doing great last night and now today back to not eating.....i am trying to get his belly regulated with the probiotics.....hopefully he will trun around.....I'd like tpo beat this darn stuff once!!!!! Sorry about your fawn it is a part of the business but that does not make it easy...just know you did all you could for the fawn!!
 
Sometimes, its just fate. In the wild that fawn would have supplied nourishment to a predator or scavenger. Although we consider our deer livestock and they are, we do not have the centuries of experience cattle and swine farmers have. Our learning curve is very steep and that leaves us with gaps and unexplained results from time to time. Sorry for your loss, but I have learned deer are alot like women.........are you ready Mitch???......The best way to get over one woman is to get under another...........In other words, there will be more fawns and as your experience grows, so will your success.
 
Very good statement Scott. How true it is. Everyone we lose we learn a little more.



Sorry Susan. As hard as we try we just don`t have all the answers to what mother nature throws at us. The piece of mind comes from all the effort & care we gave to TRY.
 
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Yes....I know Scott...I told Randy I have 22 (now 23:eek:) healthy bottle fawns that need my attention. I can't dwell on one lost buck fawn. Livestock dies....fact...you can't save every animal.



I told Randy we did everything we could, but probably just didn't catch in time like we were lucky enough to do with his brother and other buck fawn in pen at time.



I talked to my Dad today and he said that when we raised cattle (and we had alot) and the calves got it...they would act better and be dead the next day with coccidia.



It's a tough one....but marking up to lesson learned. We needed to know about it first hand even though it had a bad ending for the buck fawn.....but on the other hand we saved a whole pen of deer. I'm an optomist...can you tell:)
 
One thing to remember when looking at your fawns, deer, exotics, etc. they are "wild" animals and possess the instincts that help to keep them from becoming prey. One of those pesky instincts is to "mask" any illness or injury so that predators do not recognize them as weak. This ability to mask illnesses is one that makes early diagnosis of an ailment difficult. Take time to learn all the little quirks about your animals...do they twitch their ears frequently, do they jump around alot, notice how the lay down and which knee is normally hitting the ground first. Look at their gate, do they walk differently today than they did yesterday? Look at how the normally hold their head, is it a little lower today than yesterday? How does their tail normally look, is it hanging normally or tucked under a little. The very small differences you notice, may mean the difference between catching a problem when you are able to do something about it or not catching it until nothing you can do will help.
 
Sorry to hear of your loss. I just lost a little buck fawn myself that I had been battling with. didn't help when he yanked his leg through wire and broke his knee but he was eating good, just couldn't seem to get a handle on the runs;0( Rest are doing great!

Kimber
 
I just can't seem to get ahead of my little guys sickness.......I have tried everything.....I have had his stool tested...came back negative but I was told by another farmer that if i was treating the fawn at the time with Albon when the test was taken it would show up negative and he still could have coccidia......I don't know......all i know is it has been one crappy roller coaster ride..........we got his stool cleared of the blood he had it is starting to thicken up but he still looks like he is feeling terrible.....he eats some but not much.......I was told i might be over treating him and this is why his belly was not feeling well.....because when i was treating him he had the spurts where he would eat great and start to look like he was on the road to recovery and then boom right back down again....so now i have backed away on the treatments and treid focusing on getting probiotics into him.........he still looks like he is miserable and is eating some but not like he should....any suggestions??? I have exhausted everything i know to do and my vet is of no help at this point.....
 

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