Grouping Live Breeding

Running through will give you practice but I would not do it. To much risk. You can lose a deer from stress or complications. I suggest going to someone elses farm that is ai'ing and help them. Most farmers would love the help because it is alot of work. Just my opinion but unless I was putting in semen I would not

My opinion is it would be good practice for you. But the benefit I see is the early grouping of your fawn crop for 2010. I think this would set up all your does for an early AI cycle in 2010. It will also give the does more time to be in good shape for 2010 AI.

One year I had to do this to my elk herd as they were calving later each year because of missed cows because of AI. This did get all cows back to their right breeding season time.

I like Jack's thinking on the topic. Fact is when you run your does through it would be a good time to give wormer and such also. Again no risk for any semen being used since it is live breeding.

we used cidrs in our does that we didn't a/i this year cycled them and turned one into our breeder buck every hour or two he would meet the at gate and all where bred instantly upon entering the pen that was on 11/21 then on a 196 day gestation we have had fawns every day starting on sat. day 191 and have had babies every day since its awsome i will be done in a week instead of stung out plus we believe this is why we have had big triplets on every doe i wont every do it the old way but may not before for everyone just my thoughts W/S "JUST LIVIN THE DREAM "

Jared I'm not that far from you and you are welcome to come and help out when we do our Aiing............offer is open!

Jared I`m with Jack and Roger here. My thinking this is a good time to play cheaply. Document, Doument, Document. Set up your does to be bred during the daylite then document every doe and the time she got bred. Check this with your cycle chart if your using a 56 hour, 62 hour. What ever you use. This way you`ll have an idea about your does cycling process. Whatever time you use for your breeding time and if you have a doe that doen`t get bred you`ll have to change your time a little on that doe. Then you can chose a time to AI ( live breed ) that may hit her cycle better. If she doesn`t get bred the first time you`ll have an idea that the time you chose hit her cycle on the way out and not her peek so you`ll have to move that doe`s time back to hit that. I`ve seen cidrs pulled and put right in with a buck and still didn`t catch till the next cycle.



I`ve rambled here but does it make any sence? I know what I`m thinking but am I coveying right?

Jared, Thanks for bringing this topic to discussion. I had the same idea running through my head lately. My situation is a little different. I don't have a chute, so I need to dart everyone. I would need to dart once for vaccinations anyways, so I thought I could put in cidrs at the same time. And then just dart again to remove cidrs and inject PMSG.



The only thought I had was only doing two or three does at a time, and then waiting a week and doing two or three more does. I was concerned about how many does can one buck service at the same time without stressing him out. Can anyone give an answer to that question?

I did my yearling doe this way last year, first time moms. I started this in late september

and had them in with the bucks by 10 of oct. 7 of them took the fist time and i had fawns in mid april, 4 of them took the second round and the remaining 10 took the 3rd time. the only problem that i had was the last ten that were in two pens with two bucks that had just shed there velvet at the first of October and i think the girls were ready but i think the bucks was not. I did this to see if we could would be able to back up our ai dates to try to get out of this texas heat during fawning