Guess what is easing the scours????

Just wanted to share something.......



well, we tried EVERYTHING.i mean everything.. all he did was get worse scours and a crappy coat. finally i took him off EVERYTHING medicine or medicated.....



We went with his reg strength replacer and watered with half RICE WATER (10 oz total). if he was still hungry he got 3 oz of RICE WATER. now i still added a heaping spoon of yogurt once a day.water, pellets and dirt are available..4 feedings a day 6 am 1130 am 5 pm and 830-9pm



the scours have gone from water to soft form tonite (and only 3 SMALL occurances today) in 24 hrs....its not pellets yet, but a definate improvement



Albon LS50 Bactrim Kaopectate Pepto Immodium Pumpkin, etc did nothing to him but get him all messed up worse



i finally said the hell with it and went with my old time Mommy fixes that i used on my kids......now i am not saying these dont work, but they didnt do the job for Itty Bitty.......



oh and to add, his appetite has picked up temendously today.......but i wont let him overfeed now......

i used gelling agents........like Arrest and such......didnt work either i WOULD have the fawn that would be difficult lol gotta love them

allenb said:

An old time remedy we sometimes use is a couple tea spoons of scorched flour to the bottle. Seems to help firm the pellets. Allen

Click to expand...

that i am adding to my BOOK OF HOME REMEDIES

HuntsEndDeerRanch said:

I have also found improvement in stubborn diarrhea by backing off of treatment. I think after you try so many different things on their systems, the constant changes might actually become the source of continued diarrhea. Sometimes I also wonder if you are not giving them much substance (diluted milk, pedialyte, etc.) is there enough in there to get solid? Now as long as they look good, act good, and drink well, I try to treat the diarrhea less aggressively. One thing at time, and starting with simple remedies (pumpkin, pepto, probiotic, etc) before giving them any drugs. Like Jack says, there are so many causes, and everyone has some tricks that works for them. Good luck with your boy.

Click to expand...

my feelings exactly.. we get so caught up in FIXING every little problem to make life perfect, but sometimes there are little "bugs, virus, whatever" that just need to run its course and clear out. i plead guilty.....out of love and concern.. well ,my guy still has loose stools, (100% improved in 24 hrs) and getting pastier each time (YAH !) BUT he is healthy, bright eyes, mischevious, full of energy and his appetite has picked up immensely. i have cut him to 4 feedings a day (he drinks 10-12 oz and still wants more), encouraging the pellets and introducing slowly some wheat bread teeny pieces, a small strawberry, etc. but only 1 different item a day. gonna go back to the way i raised my kids lol adding gerber rice cereal to the bottle is easy on the stomach too and adds some substance to it....i had a stool sample done and he is clear of anything that could cause probs, so far so good. Hubby says i "over mothered" him ...



remember the first child? OMG a boo boo was an ER visit, 2nd child you're just "get up, you'll be ok" hahaha

Tundra Ridge Whitetails said:

if the replacer is mixed too strong they will get the runs. And they are all different you can feed the same mix to ten fawns and they might all be ok but one. I think its the fat in the mix that does it.

Click to expand...

i mix the replacer 1 part to 4 parts water. and today i am diluting 1/3 with rice water in the bottle. i would rather he drink more, if it stays inside and doesnt pour out the back end..so far so good and he is peeing alot too! kidneys are good



my first born son had to go on carnation non fat powdered milk and REAL FOOD (as in peas-cornbread, yeah we southern here at 3 weeks old....hes 25 and 6'4.....couldnt tolerate ANY milk or formulas , but now he drinks a gallon of red cap a nite.......go figure

ok, we are back to the watery scours........dang it......i have 2% tincture iodine on hand, if the normal useage for scouring calls for 7% , dont ya thing instead of 1 cc i could add 3 cc to the next bottle?



right now since i havent used anything for days, i scorched flour and added to the bottle.....gonna try that today and see what happens.......



sucking down the bottles......scours is yellowish and wtery but not severe where it is constant and runny down the leg.......definately no substance to it gave him some gas drops as he seems to have a bellyache ......no signs of bloating though

i am still doing the probiotics daily......even got the vet stumped......

it may sound like i am poundin him with "treatments" but i am really not....i am giving his system a time out in between to settle and try to adjust...... right now i have backed off the probiotics, watered down the replacer, and just crushed some immodium to go in the bottle. i do add some gas drops because of the rumblins that i was hearing in his tummy and he sucks down a bottle so fast. i wondered if he had "too much" good bacteria in his system as hubby suggested..i will start top dressing his feed with the probiotics slightly.



3 bottles a day (10-12 oz) plenty of outside time to nibble in the dirt and grass. he did refuse his nite bottle (4th at 8 pm), but went right to nibbling calf manna pellets. he thinks theres medicine in it (lol).. he gets moved to his pen and stall today and will see how he does. other than that he is wonderful....he is right at 6 weeks now and growing like a weed even with the tummy probs. I do wish that the Doe that i had would have made it. I wanted him to grow with another deer and not just me. Oh well, he is really bonded to the cats Callie and Samantha. We expect to see them following him thru the woods too... hahaha



If it continues, i will take another stool sample back to the vet, but u know, we have had this issue since DAY 1...for almost 5 weeks.





I will add that I am building up quite a Medicine Chest and plan on being ready for the ones that will follow prob in the spring. I have read and read and printed off remedies, but i wont give up on a single one no matter what.....



thank you for all your input and suggestions !



Season opens here very soon and my dad said i may even end up with a few due to very late breeding this year.he's seen LITTLE ones when he has been out to the hunting club. i hope not, i still have new fencing to get up over the existing to keep OUT critters...

Scott, did the pumpkin to begin with, i have a freezer full of it............no change. Vet said that pumpkin is just a source of fiber, so any over the counter Metamucil type stuff will work the same...





update report here......now mind you, during ALL of this his behavior has NOT changed at all. still playing, running, chasing the cats, being a nosy little child like deer....



i pulled him off of EVERYTHING medicated or medication for 24 hours except half water half milk to clear his system out. he takes 3 bottles at 10 oz each



day 1 half milk half water 3 x day.......4 oz of pedialyte with gas drops and water 3 x in between feedings to keep hydrated.. Peeing like a horse, so that is a good sign.. Watery bowels, squirting dark, no smell..



day 2 (yesterday) I added 2 crushed immodium to each bottle. NO probios (i know those will disagree), NO yogurt, no gelling agents...... NOTHING but the immodium and 2 droppers of Baby gas drops in each bottle. 2 loose episodes before lunch, nothing after noon



day 3......proud to report that poop is toothpaste now. he went right after his morning bottle, no smell still. I hear rumblin in his tummy after he eats, so i think the gas drops help.. he is eating dirt, some grass, nibbling on pellets some. spending more time outside in the sunshine with me. (trying to paint the barn with a deer is not fun or recommended as they are way too nosy !)



...will continue this for 2 more days slowly going back to full milk replacer.. hubby firmly believes that there was just too much bacteria in his system (good and bad) and that the Probios was the underlying cause (gotta love livin with a pharmacist, he breaks every compound down good and bad lol)



so in closing, we are staying status quo and see where it goes.. after his system gets straight, i will try to reintroduce the Probios and see if it affects him again. If it does, then i will know for sure.