Hey guys just looking for some opinions on what to do with my breeder buck who has an impacted jaw. I pretty much know im gonna have to knock him out an clean it out but i guess i was wondering if they ever go away on their own. Any input or advise is appreciated! Thanks!!
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This is called a quid and is caused by parasites - yes that's true. The cause is a reduced blood flow to the carotid artery and unless this is reversed it will just come back. Eventually the deer will die. We use Wazine 34 in the water as a general parasite treatment and to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Since we've started using it we haven't had this problem. Previously we would clean out their cheek and in a short period of time it would come back. We did show this water treatment on one of our TV shows. Just use it according to the directions on the bottle.
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upstate ny
I would still put him down and atleast check him out, clean out and drain it if its infected. Make sure you are not dealing with lumpy jaw!!!
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You can get Wazine 34 at your local farm supply store. You don't need to get it from a vet. If you knock him down you can give him an antibiotic and clean it out, but we haven't had much luck with that. It seems once they have it you can't get rid of it and it is a downward spiral - but it never hurts to try. That is why we use the Wazine 34 as a preventative measure.
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upstate ny
We saved a very high dollar deer 2 years ago that had the problem. Darted her and drained the first time and brought out 40cc of the worst looking puss you have ever seen. It went away about 2 weeks and came back fast and burst. When it opened i could see her teeth and i could see where it started eating her jaw bone. I had to dart her 5 saturdays in a row,in the middle of summer to keep it clean,give her meds and get the flies and maggots out of it. They were actually walking into her mouth from the hole in her face. Not Nice!!!!! Dont wait... In my opinion. We would have lost this doe without a doubt!! Today she is fat and sassy with romeo babbies in her belly.
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww I love a happy ending... Can you post a picture of the fat and sassy girl? I'm curious to see what a "high dollar doe" looks like... I'm not a deer farmer, I'm a dear rehabilitator in IL. I raised a doe and I think she's the most beautiful girl ever... Just wanna know what a real, proven beauty looks like. heehee
thanks!
lana
thanks!
lana
Joined Oct 2009
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upstate ny
Ha Ha, Lana a high dollar doe is just one that someone pays a little more for but they all are pretty girls either way! We have to do our best to keep them all happy and healthy. This girls name is snappy and her pic is on our website with the rest of the girls. Both high dollar and low dollar!!
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Nate we had this show up in 2 does and knocked down both in different years
and found one with with old hay that was packed in the lip.The other had a absessed molor that we pulled and treated with antibotics with no further
problems.When you knock one down you have to be prepared to be the dr. but also a dentist.
and found one with with old hay that was packed in the lip.The other had a absessed molor that we pulled and treated with antibotics with no further
problems.When you knock one down you have to be prepared to be the dr. but also a dentist.
Lana "high dollar does" look exactly like "low dollar does" except for the $ tattoo under their tail.
Didn't know you were such a comedian too, Mr. Heinrich... hehehehe
Yeah... I guess any daughter of Maxbo would be a high$doe...
But Scott seriously, my girl is so pretty and tall and long-limbed that I find it difficult to believe that they can be much prettier than she. Just love her so much. The other doe is still trying to kick her butt, even though Rosa is totally submissive to her. I think they're all just jealous of her beauty... Most importantly though, she has been healthy all winter so far, and I'm working on getting the right meds now to keep her that way.
Which dewormer will you be using this Spring and when?
Are you keeping Corrid in their drinking water all of the time or do you treat episodically?
Just wondering.
thanks.
Yeah... I guess any daughter of Maxbo would be a high$doe...
But Scott seriously, my girl is so pretty and tall and long-limbed that I find it difficult to believe that they can be much prettier than she. Just love her so much. The other doe is still trying to kick her butt, even though Rosa is totally submissive to her. I think they're all just jealous of her beauty... Most importantly though, she has been healthy all winter so far, and I'm working on getting the right meds now to keep her that way.
Which dewormer will you be using this Spring and when?
Are you keeping Corrid in their drinking water all of the time or do you treat episodically?
Just wondering.
thanks.
Thanks for the replies!! I originally thought that's what it was is hay packed in the corner of his jaw. I let him go about three days and it ended up being some kind of fluid that popped on its own.
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upstate ny
That could spell trouble for other deer down the road. That fluid get into the soil and then other deer pick it up!!
Here's a thread re Lumpy jaw you may wish to read:
http://www.deerforums.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=938&highlight=lumpy
http://www.deerforums.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=938&highlight=lumpy
Jane, how often do you put the wazine 34 in their water and for how many days? Who is the manufacturer of this product?
Lana, I just finished a round of Ferbenzadole and will follow next month with ivermectin. June will be cydectin and then not again until after all the fawns are born. I do not use corid as a preventative. I only treat if coccidia rears its ugly head. Now for your statement "The other doe is still trying to kick her butt, even though Rosa is totally submissive to her. I think they're all just jealous of her beauty... " Deer (contrary to popular belief) do not possess the reasoning ability to discern love, happiness or beauty. Pecking order displays are natural and submissive animals are always taken advantage of by the dominant ones. Sorry, just natural, not evil or mean.
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Northeast Wisconsin
We use the Wazine 34 maybe twice a year. Gary tries to put it in the water so they will drink it within a day or two. We cover up our automatic water cups and put it in water tubs so we know what they drank. We get it at our local farm supply store but I checked and it is made by Fleming Laboratories in Charlotte, NC.
Scott, I disagree, I think deer can feel love and show love. My Rosa has been away from "home" for 4 months now, and when she sees/smells me she starts to run around, back and forth from excitement and she stands erect and beautiful. She is clearly the largest, tallest, most beautiful of all. They're just a bunch of jealous girls... hehehehehe
In all seriousness though, Rosa shows me love. I will film it for you one day- you'll see for yourself. She stands next to me, presses her body against my hip and when I bend down, she places her head on top of mine and pushes on it gently. She also plays with me as soon as I come into her pen. She is not friendly with anyone else unfortunately. But she does like the good-lucking buck in the pen next door...
Thanks for the de-wormer/antithelmics schedule, Scott, I really appreciate it.
In all seriousness though, Rosa shows me love. I will film it for you one day- you'll see for yourself. She stands next to me, presses her body against my hip and when I bend down, she places her head on top of mine and pushes on it gently. She also plays with me as soon as I come into her pen. She is not friendly with anyone else unfortunately. But she does like the good-lucking buck in the pen next door...
Thanks for the de-wormer/antithelmics schedule, Scott, I really appreciate it.