Look at what Bullet Proof did for this doe....

Chris M · Jul 10, 2013

I bought a 9 yr old doe last fall. I just picked her up in May after she fawned. The farm I got her from called in April and told me she had some lumps on her throat. (She has always had a problem with feed/grass building up on the sides of her mouth, you can see the stretched skin on her right side of the mouth) but these were bigger and further back. He had give her Draxin to try to help it out. When I got her here I could see there were some bad problems....Here winter coat had still not turned, she was very thin and these lumps were pretty bad! My vet came out, gave her more Draxin and a steroid. We could not get any of the lumps to drain and they were very hard. My vet was worried that the doe had cancer at this time and wanted to come back in 2 weeks to see how she was (The vet had started to talk about putting her down). 2 weeks passed with no change, my vet come out did the Draxin/steroid thing again. (this was around May 10th) After 2 weeks of seeing no change I got some Bulletproof and started top dressing the feed. 1 month later she shows NO SIGNS of any problems...She has gained weight and seems very healthy

Im sure it was the Bulletproof that helped this doe...For 6 weeks April-mid May Draxin and steroids had no effect About the 2nd weeks of using BP she started eating better, her coat had finally changed and after the 3rd week the lumps were totally gone.

I wanted to let people know what my experience was with BP

Brent Thomure · Jul 10, 2013

Who makes B P ?

Whitetail Sanctuary · Jul 10, 2013

Larry Sheffield in Pennsylvania

Brent, Pm me if you would like Larry's number

livestocker · Jul 10, 2013

The pics indicate arterial nematodes(lumpy Jaw)...large worm infestations cause a blockage in the carotid artery, and a resultant paralysis of the jaw. The issue becomes apparent as food impactions swell the jaw. Just curious if the Vet ruled this out, and since I'm not familiar with Bulletproof, wondering if it has a component that is antagonistic or toxic to the nematodes. Lumpy Jaw is rare, and the vector normally is the horsefly, which transmits the nematode(worm) into the bloodstream as it bites the deer...It has been vectored from other biting insects, although the horsefly is the predator of choice!

Chris M · Jul 10, 2013

livestocker said:
The pics indicate arterial nematodes(lumpy Jaw)...large worm infestations cause a blockage in the carotid artery, and a resultant paralysis of the jaw. The issue becomes apparent as food impactions swell the jaw. Just curious if the Vet ruled this out, and since I'm not familiar with Bulletproof, wondering if it has a component that is antagonistic or toxic to the nematodes. Lumpy Jaw is rare, and the vector normally is the horsefly, which transmits the nematode(worm) into the bloodstream as it bites the deer...It has been vectored from other biting insects, although the horsefly is the predator of choice!

This was not lumpy jaw! First this swelling was past the jaw and lower in the throat, she also had other smaller lumps lower in the neck and on the other side. Also it was for sure not from a horsefly, this started the end of March/beginning of April in PA.....(No horsefly's) Vets/my best guess, some kind of infection? The vet was really leaning on cancerous tumors, but that must not have been the case...Not sure what it was but Im sure glad she is better!

kurthumphrey · Jul 10, 2013

livestocker said:
The pics indicate arterial nematodes(lumpy Jaw)...large worm infestations cause a blockage in the carotid artery, and a resultant paralysis of the jaw. The issue becomes apparent as food impactions swell the jaw. Just curious if the Vet ruled this out, and since I'm not familiar with Bulletproof, wondering if it has a component that is antagonistic or toxic to the nematodes. Lumpy Jaw is rare, and the vector normally is the horsefly, which transmits the nematode(worm) into the bloodstream as it bites the deer...It has been vectored from other biting insects, although the horsefly is the predator of choice!

Will wormers take care of nematode ?

livestocker · Jul 12, 2013

Chris! Thanks for the clarification, just couldn't quite define from the pics..the longer you are around this business, something new or different always crops up!

Kurt, Anthelmintics(wormers) for the most part, directly attack the parasites in the intestinal system, rather than the bloodstream...here's the part where I have to admit I'm not completely sure of the treatment modality, meaning it would be best to consult your Vet..Looks like Chris and his Vet ruled out Lumpy Jaw, but in most cases, the larval nematodes hatch, and pass through the system. If the impaction or infestation is too great, then several treatment modalities would be indicated...for sure, the benefit of a good, task-specific probiotic can't be overstated..I don't sell them, so no dog in the hunt, but when you factor in the need for net energy requirements, immune support, and feed utilization, the probiotic gives any primary treatment the support needed to be effective...Especially for ruminating livestock on concentrate feeds...And a word of thanks to all producers here, for efforts in sharing information. Sometimes, anecdotal evidence is ALL we have to work with...this industry is very unique, in that it essentially does business with itself, leaving the public to form it's own opinion regarding it's standards and practices...Hopefully, as the research gets tighter, along with efforts to promote a healthy image to the public, we can all move, at least, from "pay as you go", to "earn as you learn". I can tell you from my perspective, as a ruminant herd health and nutrition consultant, my 30+ years of experience has been almost turned upside down working specifically with whitetail deer the last 6 years! Thanks again!

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