Virgil, the deer give away has never been worked on. That would be on me since I was asked to work on it and DIDN'T.... After thinking and researching the subject, I deceided that it was not a great idea for the deer industry. With to many state regulations,CWD status,TB/Bruc. testing and the expense of starting the program it just wasn't going to work. As far as the new breeder lots, I'll let Eric respond to that, however, I did notice many breeders that had NEVER consigned to a sale. From my count, there were 19 out of 83 consignors that fit the "NEW GUYS" that you spoke of. 23% of the sale was new people. I believe that your **** stirring attempt has been exposed again and if you read the previous post it said that YOUR PA sale is where it (the doe give away) would start anyway.... Virgil, you say you are for the industry but, everytime I see you post it seems to me that you are attacking someone or have a negative spin towards the industry. Maybe I have misread your post but it just seems to be a pattern. Thanks to all that were at the sale and to those that continue to support the industry that I LOVE...