Mississippi has bill to open up deerfarming

Scott,

In Alabama we are regulated by Ag for disease issues and conservation for permitting. Call me and i will explain how we went about getting the CWD program going. I think you could do the same thing in Miss.

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Deer Farming in Alabama is not an Agriculture Industry it is regulated by Game & Fish. I wish it was Agriculture Industrial maybe someday it will be. Hey I just had a good thought, maybe we should we have some kind of survey of all the deer breeders and see if they want to leave it under Game & fish or make it the fastest growning Agriculture Industrial in the State.



By the way, I would like to remind you if you get something asking you to take a pole on if you want it under Game & Fish or Agriculture, Game & Fish would defintaly keep boarders closed as they are now. Agriculture would definatly open the boarders, which one would you like?

I am not involved in what you guys are trying to do in Mississippi but would like to say Thank You to those that are. Thank you for your time, commitmnet, dedication, money spent, and skills/experience, that has been spent in working on this.



I know that deer farming is flourshing in Alabama and that Will, Ricky, and others have spent allot of all the above to make that a reality, Great Job we will all benifit from your efforts...

Easy now Jason, we have to live with him down here. One thing about Tim, you know where he stands. Thats why we keep him. He is a good voice for the industry.

I know that the deer business was bad in 2002.. That's when most of everyone in the south started getting interested in it. Maybe some in 2003. But everything goes in cycles. I'm not saying that the people in the south made the deer business rebound but we did spend alot of money over the past few years. The fact is the deer business is a business. I don't see any breeders in the north telling Will or Ricky that they don't want their money. I personally think they sometimes pay the breeders in the north WAY to much for their deer. But nobody ever tells them "hey I think you paid to much for my deer so let me give you some money back" because in my "heart" I feel I should. I know that those two and others have stimulated the northern deer breeders very well. All the records for deer sales have been broke over the years and both of them have helped break them. All I am saying is don't bite the hand that feeds you. Everyone can ***** and moan about the deer business but if someone comes to your farm with enough money I don't think anyone would tell them no!!! Because in my heart I can't. You would sell for as much as you could get. Free Enterprise!!

Also as far as the borders go I think that they should stay closed. If you look at Texas the deer business is strong. They can sell their does at a good price. Most of the farmers that have what you would call "average deer" up north cannot sell their does. They have to eat them. These does will raise 200" four year olds but because they are not the elite does nobody wants them. That is not what I want in the south. That doe should be worth money not meat. All does should have a place in the deer business. Not everyone can afford elite deer. If you flood the market the deer will not be worth nothing. If the borders are opened it will flood the market just like up north then we will be eating our does. If our deer are not worth anything thing we don't have an incentive to keep spending money on upgrading our herd. (buying semen, does, bucks, or fawns). No need for us to build enclosures because nobody ever wants to invest in something with zero return. I think that the states with the closed borders are more stable in the deer industry because of it. Texas deer sales ate up and they continue to be stable. Most breeders up north couldn't sell their deer this year and they are scared. Do you think they want to go out and spend more money in the deer business. NO!!!!! this hurts everybody.

I had complaints and requests to have this thread deleted because of rudeness and it casts a bad image on our industry.



I have deleted some of the postings -- if there are any more that don't follow the forum rules, I will delete the entire thread.



Remember, over a 1,000 people a day view these forums ... so think before your post!



Thanks,



Russell

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Its sad when people try to make them selves look good by saying look what i have done. If you are going to try to help someone you should do it for the right reasons and not brag about it. Saying i did this or my groop did this. From outsider looking in you guys are making yourselves look bad. Maybe true colors are showing!

Russell,

I respect all you do, and I deleted all my posts on this thread. I will delete this one soon. Feel free to delete all post I have made in the past as well.

Complainers,

I do feel that it shows how over regulated our industry has become when two good friends are having fun (most of the time while talking on the phone as we posted) poking at each other. We can't make a joke because someone is afraid they aren't going to sell a straw of semen or the government agencies are going to come throw the book at us when I have never even been to Ricky's farm. Jokes are jokes and we have become so fractured that no one can take them anymore. For all you serious people out there you need to go to Texas. I have been picking at them for 10 years and they know how to take it.(I love Texas) Maybe those Texans could teach you guys to develope a sense of humor.(notice Texans were not complaining) I don't need any states border open to make a living raising deer, but I don't mind taking a few pokes at those guys. Its all in fun! GET A LIFE. ( I may move to Texas)

As far as Alabama's CWD status, if they have been turning in heads for seven years, then more power to them for getting it acknowledged.(Thanks Texans for not complaining)

I support every deer farmer in this country and fight for every deer farmers right to do business. My opinion is , all borders should be open. Thats my opinion, period. (did I mention how much I like Texas)(except 1 Saturday a year, in the middle of October)

Richie, I know you see on here that some people can't sell their deer but I had a very hard time finding good shooters this winter. Notice I said good shooters.

For all the industry's politically correct people out there who are here to save us from ourselves(you know having fun) I would be very happy to be banished from all of the National positions I hold. Just let me know. That way we don't have to deal with a good time at any events. We can maybe hold some wimps contests or maybe even a whine off. I am sick to death of having to apoligize for not saying everything everyone wants said or how they want you to say it, and patting every back that wants patted. Feel free to leave me alone. It would be very smart for any calls I recieve to be in support or about another subject.

just for info as a person not aware of exactly what was going on here, these posts could definatly be misconstrued as very bad jabs at each other, i read some of them seveal times trying to figure out whats was going on i have never known these guys to talk about others the way they were so the only explanation is thet were joking



by the way i did not make a complaint, i wanted to see where this was going to go

Thanks Rick

I don't have a problem with discussions about closed borders. In fact, I think it is a very important topic that needs to be openly and frankly discussed (and hopefully resolved).



So if you wish to continue discussions about borders, someone please start a new thread in the Farm and Business Management Forum.



Just PLEASE keep your posting civil and factual. No kicking, biting, spitting, insulting, mooning or calling names!



Thanks,



Russ



PS. It is my humble opinion that many of these problems exist because we have too many states and provinces. We need to amalgamate these into large geographic areas and reduce the amount of government.

Again. Russell for Provincial President. I have been saying that forever.

What are you saying Scott. Will is an Oh sorry Russell.