need help with buck fawn

I have a buck fawn that I have been treating for 4 days now I first thought he was dehydrated but when he stands up to walk he just spins counter clock wise.



I have given antibiotics, steroids, banamine, vit b complex, 200 ml of fluid sq each day and have got him to drink out of a bottle some.



he is 3 weeks old and was being mother raised.



nothing has seemed to help any and I have ran out of ideas.



Thanks in advance

Your dosage of Vitamin B complex which contains Thiamine, may be to low. You may consider giving in excess of 10 cc's every 6-8 hours for a day. It may help it may not good luck.

Could be listeriosis (circling disease). I have seen it in goats, but not deer; the symptoms sound consistent (although it could be other things as well). The treatment I found for it calls for high doses of Penicillin IM for 2 weeks, along with the other stuff you've been giving. I don't know that you need to continue banamine unless he has a high temp, but you might give him some BoSe. They also say to isolate animals with listeriosis, but if we don't know that's what he has...?

Let us know how it goes.

Search the forums for "circling disease" - you will find many hits.



Here is Scott Heinrich's previous response to a farmer who had the circling disease issue in a fawn:



Listeriosis - caused by the bacteria Listeria monocytogenes, found in soil, water, plant litter, silage and deer's digestive tract. Brought on by feeding silage, sudden changes in kind of feed, parasitism, dramatic weather changes and advanced stages of pregnancy.

Symptoms - Depression, decreased appetite, fever, leaning or stumbling or moving in one direction only, head pulled to flank with rigid neck, facial paralysis on one side, slack jaw, and drooling, abortions.

Treatment - Administration of 2cc Procaine penicillin every six hours for three to five days, then daily for an additional seven days.



(Goat Polio) - a Thiamine (Vitamin B 1) deficiency. From improper feeding, particularly feeding too much grain and too little roughage



Symptoms - Excitability, "stargazing", muscle rigidity, uncoordinated staggering and/or weaving, drunkenness, circling, diarrhea, muscle tremor, head against wall, and apparent blindness. A rapid, involuntary, oscillatory motion of the eyeball. As it progresses, convulsions and high fever may occur, and if untreated, the animal generally dies within 24-72 hours.

Treatment - Thiamine is the only effective therapy, and treatment can result in improvement in as little as two hours, if the disease is caught early enough. Dosage is related to body weight:

Use 500mg/ml Thiamin. Start with a gram (1,000 mg) IM the first dose, then at least 500mg per day for as long as it takes for complete recovery. Give 10cc Penicillin orally, and 10cc SQ at first treatment. Polio can be caused by plant thiaminase, or bacteria that either inhibit production of thiamin in the deer's gut, or consume the thiamin. Since we don't know what the origin is, It is preferred to sterilize the gut, and start over. So, the oral penicillin will kill the bacteria if that is the cause. On the morning of day 2, calf pac the fawn, and give 500mg Thiamin orally, and 500mg SQ. Do not repeat any of the penicillin. If the fawn will eat, feed it. If it can't eat, tube it or drench it with 100cc of Revive, 100cc of water several times a day until it can eat.

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