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rehabgal

I thought he was older till i went and filled in my calendar with his daily stuff. He stands 13 inches to the shoulder, heading out for a digital scale today.....today started getting playful with the 3 month old kitten, his constant companion.. he heads out to his new pen this week, rain has stopped us from finishing it



thanks for any and all suggestions



Rene



i have the red Cap program i am implementing today.. right now he does 4-7 oz of Sav A Kid every 4-5 hours. starting to tinkle on his own, but still requires stimulation for poo.
 

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thanks. i am thinking that all of his nutrition is going to the length of the legs, ha ha... thats about all that is growing. but he has grown so much in the past 2 weeks.....
 
i am looking forward to many years around deer. they are all over our woods here. its sad as this little guy was a road casualty, but i have high hopes for him. ! whats funny is he has a white hoof (not clear) and 3 dark ones...
 
I know we all love our deer and have some pets. These animals have a way of making you love them.



Is the goal to get this animal back into the woods and wild again or make it totally dependent on people by imprinting itself on people as your pet? A wild animal will have a hard time going back to the woods raised as this one is being raised. I love what you are doing but if the goal is to get it back in the woods this is the wrong way to do it. If you want it to have at least as good a chance as the wild ones it needs to be raised with way less human contact. Just an opinion from someone who has raised wild deer for release to the wild. Either way good luck with the deer. The Red Cap is the way to go as it does raise a good body deer.
 
well honestly, i feel there is no way to avoid much imprinting as a fawn, is there? even when they are out in the barn alone? they understand that u are a food source. I am planning on him going out soon to the holding pen, then out to the pasture where he can jump the fence as he sees fit and hopefully take up with the deer in my woods. when he goes out , i will have less time with him , mostly only for feeding. I dont care if he hangs around, we have plenty of woods, he may even come in for feeding like the goats do, but i will not confine him. I know it is different as apples and oranges, but this has worked with the squirrels we raised . I got them grown and outside acting like squirrels, but they stayed in our trees...He will always be my "first love" as my first deer. And first loves always break your heart.....



i so appreciate the help that i have received here
 
I hope you planned on nutering him before letting him loose. You might be sory if you don't. A little kid down the road cauchting the bus some morning might be the one to pay the price. Please keep that in mind no matter how nice he is now he will get mean in the rut later in life.
 
i know about rut..there is always a rifle close by.. i am really out in the woods here.no kids or bus stops,,,,,,,,but i understand where u r coming from...we have had the discussion about rut next year.....i am talking to my vet regarding the debate to neuter or not...i will be backing off as he goes to the pen. i do keep him away from the big dogs outside, they are not vicious, but will bark and run deer off so he will be skittish of dogs..they usually keep the wild ones out of the garden. i am taking all of this wonderful advice ..thank you all



has anyone had one that DIDNT turn on them during rut? i know they get hormonal and the stories of attacks, but has anyone had good luck with a buck?
 
i personally have a two year old here that does not have a mean bone in his body. Rut or no rut. I think you have to know you animal and pay attention to body language if there is any sign of aggression or change in behavior you know what to do. Its like wood working just when you take the table saw for granett it cuts your finger off. Im always on my toes but he has not yet shown any sign of ill intent.



On a side bar i beleave you have handeled your selfvery professionally on here. These guys know what they are talking about but can be very negitive. They are tring to protect you and mean well but often times come on strong. and you have the right approach, take what you know with what they know and make the best possible out come.
 
i grew up with guys and my bunch is pretty blunt. its a trait i have too, especially when it is something that I KNOW ABOUT.. thats why i came here, you guys ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST in what u do and what u know. I have reared smaller animals for years as most of us have done, not knowing but trial and error learning. this time i have decided to go the route that is not taken around here (where i live). I WILL be the only one who will take whitetails for a long distance and i HAVE to know EVERYTHING that i can or know where to come find out. my biggest fault is that when i get into something it is 200%.. thats why i have hubby putting me up my own "rehab shop" per se with a 6 ft fence surrounding it. not to keep them in as they need to roam, but to keep bad critters OUT until they can handle theirselves. where i can tend to and store everything and anything that comes my way. i must be prepared and somewhat knowledgeable to make this a success....i know that i can do it, i have the time, the patience, and the blank slate. and i have discovered a wealth of information. i learn so much everytime i just go read old threads. and the folks here that have sent me their numbers for contact, WOW, i assure you i will be calling with questions.......again, thank you !
 
I'm sorry if I ruffled some feathers as that was not my intention. I was only trying to advise against trying to make him a pet of him as that can be a problem. I only wanted to give this animal a fair chance of living in the wild.



As you have indicated you will give him more space, less human exposure and the ability to roam. I think he will break the human bond by himself when he wants to wean himself and eats the regular feed deer eat. I take my bottle babies from the barn to a one acre pen and then to a 40 acre pen. Most babies when let loose in the forty acre pen will stop all contact with me. Your idea will work as whitetail will revert back very quickly to being wild when they are exposed to more wild deer.



I have raised many bottle babies in the thirty years I have been doing this. Most of my bottle baby bucks stopped all human friendship when weaned. I have had some stay very friendly even in the rut. I have only had two buck bottle deer attack me when in the rut in that time. Those attacks were very obvious as the bucks looked like they were going to fight with another buck. Hair up and the stance were the tells. Spent a few hours in a hay feeder one day till the buck lost interest.
 
I am not offended at all. I appreciate bluntness. That is my intention to a nutshell. minus the hay feeded (cause I dont have one I could fit in. haha) I know i wouldn't have a second thought if he were a doe.......but then I have seen some pretty testy does too.. :)
 
My motto is dta...DONT TRUST ANYONE!!!!! Untill you really know who you are dealing with...There are some people that will stab you in the back and there is some deer that will stab you in the back..Use commen sence and keep that eye in the back of yur head always open!!!!!!!
 
oh i assure you, my eyes are always wide open. i would have no problem putting down any of my dogs (or a deer for that matter) if they even showed undue aggression towards anyone or anything..

i listen to all advice given, but in the end, i am the only one who has to live with my actions, and reactions.. i always CMA and "see" what is going on around me....i may sound naive, but really have years of "live and learn". Trust is hard to earn.
 
I think what you are doing is wonderful. To give that little baby a chance at life is the most precious thing. I wish you all the luck! Keep us posted on the little guy :)



Gail
 
well we have started red cap today.he loves it........of course i have it mixed with his replacer as i dont want to throw his system off all at once.....



and edited to add (Yah!) that he is starting to get really skittish around others but me.. when he is with me in the house and hubby (or anyone else) walks in, he takes off for his crate (in my sewing room) ..so he is not imprinting anyone but me.. good sign ! i can deal with that