protect farm from..humans

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Time2Time

Joined Dec 2012

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MI, Macomb TWP

Discussion Starter
• Dec 30, 2012

• #1

Hello!

I read forum and found some threads about safety.

But i would like to hear advises about how to protect deer farm from people.

One of our relatives, lost his deer farm several years ago due to vandalism(i use this word

back home from work and found hole in fence,buck head was cut and..lost, does were stolen(or someone let them go)-anyway no one seen tags does in area...

i read themes with advice to cut buck antlers

any other advices?

thanks alot

and we re from Mi(south eastern)

 

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Tom Gleason

Joined May 2012

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Hartshorne, OK

• Dec 30, 2012

• #2

A very good elect. Fence

 

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Time2Time

Joined Dec 2012

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MI, Macomb TWP

Discussion Starter
• Dec 30, 2012

• #3

what kind of fence its need to be build so human will not go thru? 10 feet stone bricks?

 

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Time2Time

Joined Dec 2012

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MI, Macomb TWP

Discussion Starter
• Dec 30, 2012

• #4

Tom Gleason said:

A very good elect. Fence

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electr fence which will shock human? or i misunderstood?

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Dec 30, 2012

• #5

Electric fence designed to retain cattle will knock the p!$$ out of ya run three strands from 6" then 24" then 40" get your self some nice wireless surveillance cameras an system and post signs stating smile your on camera an that unless they're with you there criminally trespassing!

 

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Time2Time

Joined Dec 2012

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MI, Macomb TWP

Discussion Starter
• Dec 30, 2012

• #6

thanks for answer!

 

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crocket

Joined May 2010

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nj

• Dec 30, 2012

• #7

Time2Time said:

thanks for answer!

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just got to get one ( PERSON ) and make exemp. out of him/she , draw the line in the sand , AND STICK TO IT ,

 

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Time2Time

Joined Dec 2012

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MI, Macomb TWP

Discussion Starter
• Dec 30, 2012

• #8

crocket said:

just got to get one ( PERSON ) and make exemp. out of him/she , draw the line in the sand , AND STICK TO IT ,

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hm...is it legal to have higher voltage fence?

i touched electric fence at horse ranch..not scary at all...less then dog bark collar

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Dec 31, 2012

• #9

No It's not illegal to have an electric fence but I promise if you put 7-10 k volts around your pen you know the kind that pops and cracks when weeds get to close it will deter even the average ***** be sure to post signage and warnings. I even carry a civil liability insurance so if somethin happens to an ***** there family can't come get me civilly. Because criminally I'm not doing anything wrong but we've all heard about ridiculous civil suits.

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Dec 31, 2012

• #10

Here is a general model that would deter the average dog an ***** and even me when not paying attention to where that line is lol

Stockman - AC/DC Fence Charger | Powerfields | Electric Fences

http://powerfields.com/products/detail.php?product_id=118&pCat=&cat=218

 

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Scrapelineranch

Joined Apr 2009

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north, Hopkins Co., Tx.

• Dec 31, 2012

• #11

Ezra, who is your insurance carrier? I have only homeowners liability. I have a 5 strand that has three 8' grounding rods; the closest rod is 10 foot from a pond and the rods are 10 foot apart.

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Dec 31, 2012

• #12

That's what I was saying about a surveillance system if cameras a clearly visible around the perimeter of the property with clear signage all you can do is monitor them. Also try to block the view of general public with trees or privacy fence all these things add to initial cost but peace of mind is a very comforting thing! Back to my insurance I have state farm and you can add a umbrella policy to your liability end it isn't exactly cheap but again we are talking peace of mind from idiots and civil suits so what's it worth to you.

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Dec 31, 2012

• #13

Ohh I forgot to mention the umbrella adds a million dollar's in addition to your home owners liability and also for your vehicle.

 

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Scrapelineranch

Joined Apr 2009

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north, Hopkins Co., Tx.

• Dec 31, 2012

• #14

Ezra, mayby the poster will read this thread but I read that somebody had their insurance cancelled because they raised deer. We use State Farm and a 2nd company; one for this and the other for that.

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Dec 31, 2012

• #15

I see no reason why my insurance would be cancelled... I also have a civil liability through the NRA and this to is just peace of mind!

 

Whitetail Sanctuary

Joined May 2009

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Chillicothe, Missouri

• Dec 31, 2012

• #16

State Farm..............CANCELED us after 20 years as soon as my Agent found out about us raising deer! Form an L.L.C it will also help protect your farm from IGNORANT people! Who see OUR deer and seem to lose what LITTLE common sense folks have now days!!

 

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Scrapelineranch

Joined Apr 2009

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north, Hopkins Co., Tx.

• Dec 31, 2012

• #17

Thanks, Wayne. You weren't the only one if I remember correctly. I know specialty policies are out there from "speciality" companies but in my particular case it was an instance of non-livestock. I smelled a rat and dropped the subject when I inquired of the matter.

 

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Memory Lane Farms

Joined Aug 2012

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Waynesville, Ohio

• Jan 1, 2013

• #18

Hmmm well I guess ia won't push the issue with them lol

 

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LJwhitetails

Joined Apr 2009

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Claremore, Ok

• Jan 1, 2013

• #19

Yes State Farm dropped us, as soon as they found out we had deer.

 

400CLUB

Joined Apr 2009

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Columbus, IN

• Jan 1, 2013

• #20

I was dropped by State Farm as well. If you want piece of mind...I'd get my insurance elsewhere! I'd hate for something to happen and the big wigs from State Farm say..."oh...you have deer? Sorry...we can't pay!" Maybe your agent says it's ok or knows you have deer...but do the big wigs that hold the money that comes your way to pay damages? All the agent really cares about is the commissions off your premiums!