i asked this ? on another post but should have started its own. what should i expect from a seller when a doe i bought that was live covered does not fawn? she is my biggest doe i bought but has never shown any signs of being bred. all the other 3 that i bought have all fawned already 2 bucks and 4 does. she is the best bred doe that i bought and really was looking forward to having fawns from her. thanks for the input we are a small farm trying to get started and can't afford to miss a year all input is greatly valued
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PA
That happened to me twice last year I bought live covered doe...I paid more because they were live covered...One was covered by a yearling...I think they had too many in with him...or I was just unlucky
The second doe I bought was in with the buck I Paid at auction to have her with...Then for some reason they pulled her and put her in with a better pedigreed buck... That was a yearling....(I had NO fawns out of either of them)..BOTH FARMS OFFERED A STRAW???
I was not very happy, but didn't say anything...
I know I will offer my customers more, because I bid more on the live breeding (because I was sure it would take)...
And now I have no fawns on the ground a year later and still take a chance of no fawns with the straw and another year lost.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!!
The second doe I bought was in with the buck I Paid at auction to have her with...Then for some reason they pulled her and put her in with a better pedigreed buck... That was a yearling....(I had NO fawns out of either of them)..BOTH FARMS OFFERED A STRAW???
I was not very happy, but didn't say anything...
I know I will offer my customers more, because I bid more on the live breeding (because I was sure it would take)...
And now I have no fawns on the ground a year later and still take a chance of no fawns with the straw and another year lost.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!!
Trigger, what was the guarantee when you purchased the does? Did the seller make any arrangement if you did not get fawns? It would still be a little early to think that a doe may not fawn. She could be bred and just not showing or she bred really late. Today would be a due date for does being bred around the first to middle of December. If you don't have fawns by the 15th of July, then I would start to talk with the seller. Good luck
The doe was live covered and purchased as a bred doe not exposed. i know it is still a little early but was just tring to figure out what i should expect when i contact the seller, i hope he will make good on the deal. he has been good to work with so far i know how i would handle the situation and was curious how everyone else's experiances have been. seman does not replace a fawn like Billiejo said it puts you a year behind.
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Vaughn, MT 59487
I would think the right thing for seller to do is give two fawns of equal value. Anything else would put you a year or two behind in any program you might have for your deer. I believe most deer farmers would treat you in this manor if you ask or suggest this as what you would like as reasonable compensation for the doe not being bred.
Trigger, under most conditions I have heard of sellers offering a doe fawn of equal value. Some might give two but , I feel that a single doe fawn is better then semen that might not take.
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Winnsboro, LA
I agree with Michael! Sounds more realistic and is honest! Keeps the pedigree going for another season as well! I have beefs of my own with respected farmers! You can't be mad if the deer purchased was a fawn big bodied or not to be Aid then backed up only to discover she didn't take! Just make sure of the details before bidding or buying! Get it on paper or it didn't happen, nothing personal just business!
Maybe they aborted from the move. I feel they should (at least) give a doe fawn. It still does not replace what you may have gotten from the breeding, but they should work with you to keep a good name. Good luck.
Unless you have a specific contract covering the issue of the doe not fawning, you and the seller will have to come to a mutual agreement. I think you will find any reputable breeder/producer will offer you a fawn or the chance to breed the doe this year. Regardless of what others may think is a good solution, only you have to be satisfied with the outcome, so call the breeder and see what he offers.
I have always thought that the offer of a straw in such cases was very inadequate compensation. We want to do business with our customers more than one time and go out of our way to make sure they are satisfied. The only bump in that road is if the doe receives poor care at her new home. Then there is room for disagreement over why she did not deliver fawns.