Roger, It was a new drop at the end of his right beam. I don't think he had grown it yet in the pictures that I have sent out. His G2-12 4/8, G3-11 4/8, G4-10, G5-7 and he has a small unscoreable G6 showing. The top of all his tines are fatter then at the base of the tines and he has lots of tine length to grow. I tried to take some pics but couldn't make our fancy stupid camera work in the dark, so Ryan snapped one with his cell phone camera. I could text you the pic if you get me your cell #. After sleeping on it and thinking a little today, I will probably breed just about all my does to Rolls Royce this year. I'll LAI them to him and back some up to him and the rest to be backed up to Energizer, Noble and Legacy. Probably save a couple for Time Bomb and Ebenezer but Rolls Royce will be the man this year. He is what I'm trying to grow. He looks a lot like his sire Rolex at 3 but a lot bigger!