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Who would you pick ?

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Chillicothe, Missouri
If you could breed with any Buck...... past or present and price for a live Cover WAS NOT a Factor.............What 5 Sires would YOU choose to use to impact your herd ?



1. Maxin

2. Cardinal

3. Sunny

4. Thunder

5. Bucky
 
I choosing on strictly production not popular opinion

Max

Rolex

Banshee

Bucky

Pa Geronimo

Tex

Heavy

and Rigid is one who I have on the edge.
 
I wish I knew much more about genetics!!!. But this is a really good question!



The first part of the question is "What bucks past AND present". When I see whats listed so far I see mostly older sires. While their production is certainly proven, should we rely on older proven sires or be trying the next generation based simply on faith (and the fun of trying something new)?



The second part of the question says "impact your herd". So we have to look at our own herds before we answer the question. Do we go with out-crosses, or do we try some line breeding. Again I wish I knew. So I'm trying a little of both.



So what bucks if I could use any would I use on my own does? My does are bred very deep with HighRoller (Timberjack, Highway 10, RolexBy10), PA Geronimo (All our foundation does), Maxbo (Maxbo Impact, Maxbo 727, Maxbo Extreme, Maxbo Select), Flees Sires (Sudden Impact, Cardiac Kid), and a few other lesser known lines.



We bought Moses (Bucky over HighRoller) to breed to some Maxbo based does as an out-cross and some Timberjack does as a line breeding. Then I threw in a few other does and really have no idea why (lol).



We bought Remax (Reno/Maxbo) to out-cross with our Highway 10 and Timberjack does and bring the early maturing power of Reno (another great sire) into play.



We put WayAwesome (Waylon/Awesome) on the out-cross of some Lethal Weapon does hoping for huge big frame typicals.



We put RolexBy10 (Rolex/HighRoller) on our Maxbo Impact (Sudden Impact/Maxbo) and Hydro Power Ax (Hydro Ax/Maxbo/Loner) does mainly as an out-cross.



I guess I'm rambling on and on and on.....If I could pick 5 bucks past and present to bring home, or back to life to breed to MY does to impact MY herd based on out-crosses and some line breeding, they would be:



1. New Image (The look and 528)

2. Maxbo XL or one of his huge sons (I don't know of buck that is a bigger producer of inches)

3. Free Agent or if I was really bold, one of his new sons! (Inches again)

4. Cardiac Kid (The look is just so nice!, I have faith!)

5. Texas Tea (Rolling the dice on this one with my does, but what the heck, he is producing!, and what a look!)
 
Sam,You have passed the test...............Grasshopper! LMAO:D

You are exactly right in your take on the ? as far as my thinking and how I would use these sires to compliment MY herd and inhance and deepen my gentics. While there is no right or wrong answer I find it very interesting to see the different takes other farmers have on some of these questions and the sires who get listed. But it is clear to see so far the impact some of the older sires and thier desireable traits we like in thier influence on our herds!



Keep it coming :)I think it's fun to see what other folks like!
 
Finally a topic that doesn't create any controversy because we have NO right or wrong answers just each his own choices. I like many of the bucks others chose but I went with some of the bucks who have consistently produced. Not saying those others don't or wont! That's what make this thing(breeding) so much fun. Some work some dont.
 
1. Arty-has everything covered. Width, main beams, tine length, balanced, and body size.

2. Redoy Bill-many great bucks have come from this line.

3. Waylon or Waldo-these two are getting it done on many farms.

4. Maxbo Ranger

5. Either High Roller or Hoss (Borntrager)
 
I would say ...



1. Rolex

2. Ridgid

3. Leverage (Marty Berry's)

4. Rattler (The Refuge)

4. Maxbo XL



If only a live breeding could be arranged. I would settle for semen from any of these deer too. That is just me though.



-Johnny B
 
I think that the some old lines produce well. However I feel the new and improved lines should produce even better. With the old and new it is hard to pic just 5 but here we go.



Maxbo

Redoy Bill

H 10

Gladiator

Dream Milbo (This deer has a good look and a stacked pedigree for big framed deer.With legend an h10 son as an anchor.)

Just not enough pics!!!
 
First Sire: Walks -SAVAGE!- he is showing that frame in his offspings sons and grandsons. Just do your homework you'll see what I'm talking about.

Second Sire: -GOLD BUCKY BOY!: This buck is underrated in my opinion. I'm not giving my secret away on here, but this deer is in his own league! I saw Eugene Flees buying his semen at three years old. This is the guy that made Bucky! Must seen my secret first. Oh wait, he was deer farming before most all of us.lol

Third Sire:- J-44!-( Penn State )Do your homework newbies! This buck is the reason several major deer farms are at the top.

Fourth Sire:- Heavy! Too many reasons and I don't have to elaborate. His daughters are awesome, and since good farmers breed for daughters .........

Fifth Sire: -This one is a tie between ROLEX & MAXBO XL. Im with Sam on the inches. Both are blood pushers for sure. Both have the records currently and probably always will?



WOW! I JUST IMAGINED LOOKING OUT OF MY OFFICE INTO THE PENS AND SEEING

G.BUCKY BOY, HEAVY, ROLEX, MAXBO XL, J44, SAVAGE. Shame on you Wayne!!:D
 
This is a cool thread. It's hard to pick 5 and not leave something out .

Maxbo XL

Arty

Silverstorm

Cardiac Kid

Highroller
 
I'd have to say for proven production...







Sires



Martygraw (Put Mark Pierce on the map with Hydro-Ax, Pretty Boy Floyd, Sky High, and many others)

Maxbo (Put Dave McQuaid on the map)

PA Geronimo (Put Griffith Brothers on the map)

Max (Put Curt Waldvogel on the map)

Poncho (One of Flees best producers)



Honorable mentions to... Maxbo XL, BW Sunny, Little Boomer, Reggie, Bucky, Johnny, Sundance, Rolex, Thunder



Dams



BJ

PSU J-44

Patrick

Blosser Goliath/Mary

Waldvogel Boomer



Honorable mentions to... Walks Tami, AGN Queen, Highroller, Heavy, Daisy Mea, Pebbles, Peach



All in no particular order. I'm sure there are more and that's more than 5 but, just can't narrow it down any more than that.
 
La. Bone Collector said:
First Sire: Walks -SAVAGE!- he is showing that frame in his offspings sons and grandsons. Just do your homework you'll see what I'm talking about.

Second Sire: -GOLD BUCKY BOY!: This buck is underrated in my opinion. I'm not giving my secret away on here, but this deer is in his own league! I saw Eugene Flees buying his semen at three years old. This is the guy that made Bucky! Must seen my secret first. Oh wait, he was deer farming before most all of us.lol

Third Sire:- J-44!-( Penn State )Do your homework newbies! This buck is the reason several major deer farms are at the top.

Fourth Sire:- Heavy! Too many reasons and I don't have to elaborate. His daughters are awesome, and since good farmers breed for daughters .........

Fifth Sire: -This one is a tie between ROLEX & MAXBO XL. Im with Sam on the inches. Both are blood pushers for sure. Both have the records currently and probably always will?



WOW! I JUST IMAGINED LOOKING OUT OF MY OFFICE INTO THE PENS AND SEEING

G.BUCKY BOY, HEAVY, ROLEX, MAXBO XL, J44, SAVAGE. Shame on you Wayne!!:D



Well Jason you had to go and let the cat out of the bag on this one didn't you!!! Lol

Wow what a line up that would be!



I would have to agree with you guys Rolex and XL blood pushing power.............Period!



J44 and Savage .......SOLID old school production in all offspring!



Golden Bucky boy ...........Frame machine!



Heavy...................Well I was kinda keeping that secret to myelf.................The Heavy line is getting it done, Framey Typical deer,HUGE nontypical deer and offspring that produce! Hands down one of my favorite Flees doe lines. Oh yah and Rawhide has one of the best Heavy does in his bottom side as well as what may prove to be (In My Opion)one of the best keep secrets out there in a Flees sire......................G36!



Jason...............Class Dismissed!!!!!!LOL:D
 
Wayn, I have a green 36 doe bred to Extra Gold who is a Gold Bucky son. What do ya think?
 

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