Better listen!!!!

A member in Missouri has been contacted by Pangolin Pictures, a New York City-based independent tv production house looking to film deer fawns. Bewarned to not invite them to your farm.











This company under the guise of filming for PBS, is actually the same company that produced the infamous 2011 Animal Planet Investigates: "Captive Hunting Exposed".







This member refused to cooperate with them, and I advise all Cervid farmers to do the same. Please be diligent and do not accept anyone on to your property with video or still cameras wishing to "take pictures", as they very well may be working in conjunction with HSUS.





I just wanted to let everyone know that these guys called my farm friday wanting to come out and film and ask some questions. I have the voicemail on my phone with names and numbers if needed. Just another reason that we all need to be members of nadefa!!! They are still watching our backs!!

Thanks for the heads up Mike!!

Send them to my farm. I need a new camera. I bet they would have a good one! lol

It should be illegal (if not already) to have video/photos taken under such false pretense!

Iowa Lawmakers to Consider 'Ag Gag' Legislation, Again

USAgNet - 01/30/2012



A bill that would impose the nation's toughest legislation restricting undercover operations by animal rights activists will return in the Senate as part of a procedural motion. House File 589, known as the "ag gag bill," which would make it illegal to videotape at farms or other animal operations while undercover. Farmers say the legislation is needed to protect the state's agricultural economy against activists who deliberately cast their operations in a negative light and continue videotaping rather than reporting abuse immediately.



According to the Des Moines Register, animal welfare officials say undercover recording is vital to protect livestock and food safety and that they must document multiple instances of abuse to show a pattern.



The House passed the bill last year but it stalled in the Senate after the Iowa attorney general's office said the bill would most likely face constitutional challenges because of provisions that would have made it illegal to possess or distribute audio or video recordings. The U.S. Supreme Court has previously ruled that films exposing animal cruelty represent the exercise of free speech.



The Senate late in last year's session introduced a sweeping rewrite that scrapped an effort to establish new offenses of fraud to prohibit animal advocates from obtaining access to livestock facilities by false pretenses. Instead, the Senate rewrite legislation beefs up language regarding trespassing, making it a crime to enter or remain at an agricultural operation or to have a recording device at such operations without express permission.



Critics contended last year that current trespassing law already makes such activities a crime and that the Senate version also poses constitutional problems because it would require anyone who makes undercover recordings while trespassing to turn over the recordings to authorities.



The Senate will call the bill up for debate today as a procedural motion to address multiple amendments on the bill, said Eric Bakker, a Senate Democratic staff member. A debate to pass the bill is not today, he said. The Senate is currently recessed until 4:15 p.m.



The bill, if passed by the Senate with amendments, must ultimately return to the House for further consideration because of the changes made, the Des Moines Register reports.



Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement's Action Fund called the bill unconstitutional and a waste of time.

They must not be callin the right farms here in Missouri ................My dog Chief would LOVE to have them for DINNER!!!!!!!! And I could use a new camera myself!

Thats a beautiful dog there. I bet he could really show those New York City boys a whole new meaning for animal abuse

Hey Wayne is your dog house broke or does he just stop at the end of the lane

Chuck, You've been here you know Chief my Great Pyrenees handles the outside! And my Bulldog Saddie handles the inside work!

Thank mike

Well you would think Montana was too far away for this type of crap. Just had a call and the lady wanted to come for pictures of dead or parts of dead deer or a dying deer for the program they were making for National geographic. I told her she could get pictures of dead or dying deer from any state Fish and Game department as thousands of deer were killed across the nation each night from cars. Can you just imagine the type of film they are making about the industry.

Jack said:

Well you would think Montana was too far away for this type of crap. Just had a call and the lady wanted to come for pictures of dead or parts of dead deer or a dying deer for the program they were making for National geographic. I told her she could get pictures of dead or dying deer from any state Fish and Game department as thousands of deer were killed across the nation each night from cars. Can you just imagine the type of film they are making about the industry.

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are u kiding me? i can just see the look on jacks face when asked . or what he realy wanted to tell the lady, lol

Unbelievable ......I can only imagine what they are putting together.......hopefully it will back fire on them.......

tell them to show up . when they do show up tell them to leave.

Not a bad idea dear John......we should mess with them a bit.....I like that idea....let them waste their time and money!!

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Not a bad idea dear John......we should mess with them a bit.....I like that idea....let them waste their time and money!!

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ya they jerk us around

The only problem with that idea is that it will surely be used as negative publicity. They will twist the gesture into the idea deer farmers have something to hide. I think that it sounds like a good way to stick it to these folks but really it most likely will hurt the industry more than the gratification that the farmer will get but doing it. I think the best course of action would be avoidance.

Just my thoughts,

Chris

Good point Chris.......very good point......

I was as polite as I could be but knowing the agenda is set in their minds you would be unable to change that. I have talked to these people with an agenda and nothing will change their minds at that point as their minds are closed. We as an industry have to change the minds of people who are on the fence with their opinion. We are now doing that with the good programs like Keith and Wild Rivers are making. We should have done this twelve years ago and we would not be in this position now but better late than never. Thanks to all the people now doing this.

I agree Jack, I think we are starting to get headed in the right way!