Thanks Buzz, I have always liked Noble from day one. Everybody has thier own look and opinions but he just has it all. I hope to see some great 2,3, and 4 year old sons out of him this year from other deer farmers. I know that he was used alot the last 2 years, but nobody ever shows his offspring bucks much. I had the biggest typical yearling out of Noble last year, but he was so crazy I sold him to a guy about 70 miles from me. He must have got it from the dam side because Noble and his daughters that I have are as calm as any deer on my farm. I also have very small pens, just for that reason. The small pens seem to make them calmer, but I just couldn't do anything with him. After he shed his velvet last year, he just went crazy. I will be able to keep a eye on him I think he will be a huge 2year old typical this year.