Breeding Discipline/Flavor of the week

Brett I am sorry to hear that. That is one thing that can set any farmer back, buying good animals and loosing them before you get anything out of them. That's a bummer. It's funny, my first animals were not the best of genetics, I didn't really care about genetics at that time, I just wanted deer. Unfortunately, as the years went by I seen that my does we're lucky to produce a 150" three year old. The thing was, I never lost a deer. It seemed like they would literally just not die or get sick, ever.

Now those genetics are long gone and my genetics are stronger than anything I've ever had. And it seems I can't go a year without loosing a promising buck fawn, or a really good doe, and I also seem to manage to always have a buck break a leg and grow a screwed up side on his rack. Funny how that works, lol. Just part of deer farming I guess.

We all need to accept the fact that to some breeders what is on paper matters most!!! Also for myself I would rather have deer with good pedigrees that I can make money on the does and the bucks. Everyone has a differant opinion of what production is. To some a doe that gives 145 inch yearling every year is production! ! Other people say they have to be 200. Finally we all need to find our place, have fun, grow big bucks, and dont criticize each other.

Im with Brett on this one concerning Alabama and closed borders. Its like a catch 22......... The problems that I see in buying a doe that particularly does not have the best pedigree on paper is not being able to sell her and break even or much less, make money regardless if she produces good two year olds( given that you want to sell her to increase your genetic line). So we in Alabama are pretty much forced to by the flavor if we want to sell something that does not have a rack. Ive been to several auctions here in the state and have found that if the doe does not have the proper paperwork, she doesn't get sold or she does sell and the owner get one broke off in him. So clearly, its hard and takes time to advance your genetics if you don't have a money tree in your pen somewhere. The flavor of the year might not taste good to you but if everyone else likes it, I'd would struggle on not buying it. I wish it was what I liked that sold and not what everyone else likes. unfortunately, that's not the case.


Brett, I started out with northern genetics in Blount County. They have done well but I am now shifting to Texas genetics because of the little devil fly. The texas cross stuff now seems to be hearty and early producing. It also seems to be going for more at the auctions.

Jeremy


 


I have bred texas into my southern does for the last 2 years.  I still don't know what to expect when they reach 2 or 3 years of age.

I wish you the best.

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Jeremy


 


I have bred texas into my southern does for the last 2 years.  I still don't know what to expect when they reach 2 or 3 years of age.




 


The bad part is NOBODY really knows what a doe will produce till you keep her and see! You can breed for "Paper" and still not be be 100 % sure he or she will bring any money at home or at auction when sale time come. 


You can breed North today and south tomarrow and next auction or next year you will be headin down a different road and a different breeding strategy!


Breed for big shooters that come from big frame producers and that is about as sure a bet as there is!

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The bad part is NOBODY really knows what a doe will produce till you keep her and see! You can breed for "Paper" and still not be be 100 % sure he or she will bring any money at home or at auction when sale time come. 

You can breed North today and south tomarrow and next auction or next year you will be headin down a different road and a different breeding strategy!

Breed for big shooters that come from big frame producers and that is about as sure a bet as there is!
That is my goal. Breed shooters. I am not interested in the flavor of the day. I have two goals. Shooters at two and survivability.

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That is my goal. Breed shooters. I am not interested in the flavor of the day. I have two goals. Shooters at two and survivability.




AMEN BROTHER will be nice to see a pen full of 2yr olds

Like me I bought a two wide over big sir my other doe is triple crown over timber jack and have no idea what I will have till the to boys from them grow out this yr as yearling. Then I bought a buck fawn last yr out of energizer over high roller and praying he does not just become a shooter when he turns three