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Coughing buck- Not Pneumonia cough- Help!

Hey guys, check this bacteria out: Fusobacterium necrophorum

It causes a lot of problems such as foot rot, lung problems (pnuemonia) as well as lumpy jaw problems after deer eat spiny things and get open sores in their cheeks etc. The deer gets an injury/wound and this bacteria sets in to reak havoc. We are dealing with several foot rot cases and lumpy jaw cases right now. Talk with your vets!
 
One of them bucks I was talking about in my last post is starting up the same way he did last summer. If you watch them close they act like something in there nose like a bug are fly, and try to blow it out. Then they lick there nose alot , then the cough start. I hit him again with ivomec plus 4 CC ,CQ . It is like Tim says you got to break the cycles of the eggs. GOOD LUCK
 
Just one observation I have made is that some deer react to pollen just as alergic humans do. The above mentioned post is precisely the symptoms I have seen.
 
we got sick of guesing necrop. 2 deer with it, all came back with good marks for viruses and bacteria, stol samples were excellent. We did 3 more doe with lung draws for bac. and they got nothing to grow,all blood work is neg. and temps are ballpark. they look like healthy deer just a cough
 
I would like to hear if anyone found anything out on this subject. I have a buck fawn that is like this right now. Everything is normal just a cough. Nothing seems to work. Are all the animals posted here still alive today and do they still cough.

Thank you

DJ
 
We have deer that have done the same thing. I usually hit them with 2cc Draxin and 2cc Banimine. Most of the time this helped but sometimes I've seen it come back. It looks like there are several opinions on this one. I would be curious to here from one of the vets on this.
 
Are any of you feeding extremly dry dusty hay,or moldy hay? This can get in their nose and nasal passages,
 
I have a doe that has had a cough forever, I treated her when she was young but nothing helped. My vet told me that it was probably something that she would always have. And she has to date, she is healthy and acts normal she is 2 1/2 now.
 
Sorry ncw, but I believe you may be wrong, IVOMEC does treat LUNGWORM. IVOMEC PLUS also treats LIVER FLUKES.



Specifically, here is what it reads on the back of my "Ivomec" (Ivermectin) box (Injection for Cattle and Swine), 50mL bottle:



Cattle: For the treatment and control of gastrointestinal roundworms (including inhibited Ostertagia ostertagi, LUNGWORMS, grubs (note insert precautions), sucking lice, and mange mites in cattle.
 
That is coming from my vet. I know the back of the bottle says that, but she has told me that its not strong enough to get rid of them. All I know is that it works.
 
I've heard the same thing from my vet.He said to use the Ivomec plus also it is much stronger.
 
Both Ivomec and Ivomec PLUS deliver 200mcg of Ivermectin per kilogram. The strength is the same. The only difference is that the "Plus" also delivers 2 mg clorsulon per kg.

My vet uses Ivomec in our part of Illinois (northern).



Product Description



Ivermectin is derived from the avermectins, a family of potent, broad-spectrum antiparasitic agents isolated from fermentation of Streptomyces avermitilis.



IVOMEC Injection is a clear, ready-to-use, sterile solution containing 1% ivermectin, 40% glycerol formal, and propylene glycol, q.s. ad 100%. IVOMEC Injection is formulated to deliver the recommended dose level of 200 mcg ivermectin/kilogram of body weight in cattle when given subcutaneously at the rate of 1 mL/110 lb (50 kg). In Swine, IVOMEC Injection is formulated to deliver the recommended dose level of 300 mcg ivermectin/kilogram body weight when given subcutaneously in the neck at the rate of 1 mL per 75 lb (33 kg).



IVOMEC Plus is a ready-to-use sterile solution containing 1% w/v ivermectin, 10% clorsulon, 40% glycerol formal, and propylene glycol, q.s. ad 100%. It is formulated to deliver the recommended dose level of 200 mcg ivermectin/kg and 2 mg clorsulon/kg given subcutaneously behind the shoulder at the rate of 1 mL per 110 lb (50 kg) body weight.
 
My large animal Veterinarian also replied to me a moment ago, so I'm sharing his thoughts on the subject as well:



Either one will work the same on lungworms(Dictyocaulus sp.). The only difference is that the ivomec plus has clorsulon in it, which is for killing liver flukes. But it's the ivermectin portion of the medication that kills lungworms, and both have the same concentration of that in them.

Patrick
 
hey, we let them have free rain at psu lab full neo. found nothing that lead us to an answer so we had our own vet do fluid draws on the lungs nothing grew on 3 dif samples. only the cough was still there. we did not loose a deer to its just the one that we had to sacrifice for the better, all seem to have gotten over it now its still a mystery. How are all the deer doing for you guys?
 
Ive seen those worms coughed out of the deer and onto the snow on more than one occasion. The adult stage of one of the worms has it in the sinus. As a taxidermist I have also seen these worms (more like nasty grubs) attempting to crawl from the nose and mouth of the dead heads brought to me.



Scott, is there any harm in running them through the squeeze and giving them both a IvoPlus shot sq AND poly serum, as a safe guard?
 
Guys I got a buddy that has around 50 buck fawns in a pen that some has a dry cough . He has worm them but they still cough, is there a chance that they have lung worms . And can fawns get liver flukes at that ages,and if they do how would you treat all them fawns.
 
Im no vet by all means. All I know is my deer, and other farms in our area are having this same problem. Ivomec PLUS is all that is helping us. I dont know if its lungworms, flukes or what. My vet was out here and told me lungworms was the problem, so thats what ive been going off of. I have tried regular Ivomec and they still have the same cough. Ivomec PLUS is getting rid of it within 2 days of when I inject them. Anyone who tries this let us know what the outcome is.
 
For the typical parasite issues experienced in Northern Illinois (lungworm, mites, etc.), my well-trained Deer Vet advises administering IVOMEC (not Plus, because we don't have issues with Liver flukes up here- so why risk poisoning the animal further?) and then to follow up within a month again with another SQ injection in the neck (above the shoulder blade). Timing is important- and this has already been discussed on the forum ad naseum. Good luck PA farmers! Sorry to hear about coughing deer- hope it clears up real soon! Best wishes to all.
 
has anyone looked into deer bot flies? it can cause coughing and sneezing. i wouldn't think it would be this time of year but who knows.
 

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