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CWD charges

Jack

Jack

Joined Apr 2009
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Vaughn, MT 59487
Just curious if others have had a large jump in CWD testing charges sinse the new Federal program took effect? My CWD testing charges have jumped from 75 dollars to 150 dollars. Kind of makes a slaughter deer at $4.00 a pound hanging weight lose all it recovered value.
 
That's crazy Jack......the attacks are coming fast and furious.......I hope we can fend off this front!!!
 
Hey Jack we here in Wi were at $25 to $ 40 bucks for testings when the state kicked in their share. Now that funding ran out so tests here run around $120.00 per head. Could you imagine telling a cattle farmer he'd have to pay $120.00 to slaughter an animal for his family to eat like we have to ? I mean he'd slaughter and cut and wrap his own meat but still have to pay $120.00 for some test to eat his own critter . Seems crazy .
 
Yes I've been in the program sinse 1999 and there has been no let up on testing as promised by the State when we agreeded to do this. Industry people have always kept their word with these State and Federal people but it has not been kept by them. We were promissed relief in five years and 10%of slaughter animal would have to be done, harvest animals would also be at ten percent and any animal that died would be CWD tested. Sounded fair to me as like the present people doing our thinking what else can we do but just do this for awhile and it will let up when we prove our animals are not CWD diseased. People who still believe we have to do this to stay in business and the rules will get better and we can change them later I flat say ******** change them now or be forced out of business in time. Do you people who want to do this not see the constant dirrection of more rules and cost to the deer producer. Where is compensation for our industry animals if we do have a positive? Thats right there in no compensation. Any livestock group that will allow this is nuts

Yes your right cattle people would never been put in this position because they would never have started it on them and their mad cow will transfer to people. Are you telling me wild deer are more important than people, I think not. The only cure for this is a positive force for a fair CWD rule for all the industries, cattle, sheep and deer and elk.
 
What if we could all get together and agree not to pay! What would they do then, put everyone out? They would be so sick of writing citations that they would quit bugging us., believe it or not, that's the kind of movement it is going to take, we keep giving them what they want, and they keep stepping us into the ground.
 
I was thinking more of a nation wide group lawsuit to treat all livestock producers the same with the CWD, Mad cow and scrappies issue and get compensation for animals. This would be much more likely to happen and legal than just quitting and not paying for CWD testing which would get us nowhere in the long run.
 
Wooden acres said:
Hey Jack we here in Wi were at $25 to $ 40 bucks for testings when the state kicked in their share. Now that funding ran out so tests here run around $120.00 per head. Could you imagine telling a cattle farmer he'd have to pay $120.00 to slaughter an animal for his family to eat like we have to ? I mean he'd slaughter and cut and wrap his own meat but still have to pay $120.00 for some test to eat his own critter . Seems crazy .
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No kidding! The cattle people would storm the capitol building and throw cow guts in the front lawn! Yet we have to endure this raping!
 
Jack said:
I was thinking more of a nation wide group lawsuit to treat all livestock producers the same with the CWD, Mad cow and scrappies issue and get compensation for animals. This would be much more likely to happen and legal than just quitting and not paying for CWD testing which would get us nowhere in the long run.
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Yes Jack there needs to be an organized national effort to curb the biased practices against our industry.
 
IndependenceRanch said:
Yes Jack there needs to be an organized national effort to curb the biased practices against our industry.
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Can ANYONE tell me why this is the case????? I have asked it many times and NOBODY has ever explained why WE keep bending over????????????????:(



Why can WE NOT STOP all these CRAZY Rules and Regulations............?????:confused:





NO other Ag based Industry as WE ARE would!! But WE seem to just except it and move along!:mad:
 
Whitetail Sanctuary said:
Can ANYONE tell me why this is the case????? I have asked it many times and NOBODY has ever explained why WE keep bending over????????????????:(



Why can WE NOT STOP all these CRAZY Rules and Regulations............?????:confused:





NO other Ag based Industry as WE ARE would!! But WE seem to just except it and move along!:mad:
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Wayne, I think we are very unorganized and very divided. We have nobody to take the torch and lead. As an industry we keep our head in the sand and worry about self preservation. What's sad is the deer industry is very strong. We should be as strong as any other ag industry. We need leadership and we need it now! The ACA is ready to fight for our rights. They are ready for a law suit! That's what it's going to take, the discrimination has to end. All ag industries should be treated the same.
 
Kurt you are so right......It is going to take a lawsuit! That is the onlyth g that works in today's day......I hope everyone is supporting the ACA......they are focusing in the right direction as far as what our next step needs to be!
 
ddwhitetails said:
Kurt you are so right......It is going to take a lawsuit! That is the onlyth g that works in today's day......I hope everyone is supporting the ACA......they are focusing in the right direction as far as what our next step needs to be!
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Does anyone know what that step is. I got a call for a donation and had a nice talk with the guy. I asked for info on what might take place or where they were headed. Didnt get much from him but he said something should be know soon?????
 
Wayne,

In my State our own regulatory agency ( DNR) are the ones that have the power and they are against this industry and always have been. Yes they are polite and not aggressive to our faces but behind the scenes they are the one pulling the string against the industry and I would guess it is that way in every State.

I just saw this again when our two department met on my ranch in an effort to get me to get rid of my Texas dalls sheep. The department of Livestock gave four permits for me to ship in these sheep as domestic sheep. After two years of having them the DNR finds out I have them and wants me to slaughter them or get rid of them right away because these sheep will jump my eight foot fences and go fifty miles and breed the wild sheep of Montana. Never mind there are wool sheep in low fences just miles away from these wild sheep. I watched the State Vet look to the DNR on almost every question posed by me for how they could proceed. I had informed these folks someone was going to be liable for my investment and my loss and it wasn't going to be me. We did come to an agreeable way for me to get all the Texas dalls sold. There is a law in Montana that no mouflon or hybrids of mouflon can be in the STate.
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
Does anyone know what that step is. I got a call for a donation and had a nice talk with the guy. I asked for info on what might take place or where they were headed. Didnt get much from him but he said something should be know soon?????
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Mike, that's all good but just seems like the same old sports slogan"Just wait till NEXT year........We'll GET em!!!:(
 
Whitetail Sanctuary said:
Mike, that's all good but just seems like the same old sports slogan"Just wait till NEXT year........We'll GET em!!!:(
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Yes thats kinda what i was getting at with the question to the guy. He said he did not have any info where it was going just that they were trying to raise more!
 
The problem the states make all there money selling hunting lienses so they don't want us to raise deer!!!
 
I think our biggest problems are we never do anything ! We say we're going to but we just bend over and take it , and we do it over and over too ! We don't go to the capitol and throw deer guts on the lawn as stated the cattle people probably would ! We do little to nothing, other than adapt to one new regulation after another. Why wouldn't the regulating people not give more and more regs , they know by now we'll just accept them and do nothing about them ! We are suppose to be livestock boys ! Livestock under the USDA just like lots of other livestock type critters !!! Any other livestock that you know of that has to test and test and pay for a licence a fence inspection and fill out a cencus form on their animals ? Pay good money to harvest or butcher an animal to eat on ones own farm ? I don't know of any !!
 
Guys I do not not normally respond or post on these forums but I would like to let all know that there is a growing number of individuals who believe we are at a crossroad in our industry. We can continue to negotiate and compromise until we negotiate and compromise ourselves right out of business or become so heavily regulated we can no longer stay in business or we can say enough is enough. This is really a very simple matter; continue with the status quo or take control of our own destiny. This is our industry. We certainly need to control the spread of CWD and minimize the risk to captive as well as all wild cervids but not to the point of shutting down an industry or putting hard working farmers and ranchers out of business when or if it is discovered in the next state or the next deer pen. I encourage all to ask the question, " am I better off today than yesterday and how many of my friends are no longer in the business." There is a tremendous amount of work being done to correct the current CWD standards. This has been a slow process but is rapidly coming to an end. Industry will have to decide whether to accept these revisions or to say we do not want them. Either way just know there are many who are working to keep this industry the very best in can be. I invite everyone who is a part of the industry to be on the industry conference call April 9 at 8:00 PM central time. This is the American Cervid Alliance meeting of associations to discuss and plan industry's future course.
 
Sarg6207 said:
Guys I do not not normally respond or post on these forums but I would like to let all know that there is a growing number of individuals who believe we are at a crossroad in our industry. We can continue to negotiate and compromise until we negotiate and compromise ourselves right out of business or become so heavily regulated we can no longer stay in business or we can say enough is enough. This is really a very simple matter; continue with the status quo or take control of our own destiny. This is our industry. We certainly need to control the spread of CWD and minimize the risk to captive as well as all wild cervids but not to the point of shutting down an industry or putting hard working farmers and ranchers out of business when or if it is discovered in the next state or the next deer pen. I encourage all to ask the question, " am I better off today than yesterday and how many of my friends are no longer in the business." There is a tremendous amount of work being done to correct the current CWD standards. This has been a slow process but is rapidly coming to an end. Industry will have to decide whether to accept these revisions or to say we do not want them. Either way just know there are many who are working to keep this industry the very best in can be. I invite everyone who is a part of the industry to be on the industry conference call April 9 at 8:00 PM central time. This is the American Cervid Alliance meeting of associations to discuss and plan industry's future course.
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How do we get on this conference call ? Please post info on how we can do this! Please:)
 

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