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Four Seasons Whitetails said:
Do you not have a farm store like Tractor Supply or a feed mill-store? You will probably not find a deer feed..You will find like a sweet feed or a pellet mix!



If he is say 8 weeks old you could be feeding him milk twice a day now say at 10ozs a feeding...But he needs roughage..ie, Alfalfa,clover hay...Sweet feed mix or calf mana starter mix!

Yes, we have many farm/feed stores, including Tractor Supply. One of the benefits of a small town. But I don't know what a deer would eat, other than hay. We have horse grain with oats in it as well as rabbit pellets, are those good for him?
 
Silverwolf said:
Yes, we have many farm/feed stores, including Tractor Supply. One of the benefits of a small town. But I don't know what a deer would eat, other than hay. We have horse grain with oats in it as well as rabbit pellets, are those good for him?



The horse grain would work in a pinch but if yours is like ours they have 2 different bags of sweet feed...One bag has purple and one has brown. The purple i believe is the one that has a little bit of cracked corn in it along with a sweet feed mix. Get 1 of each and mix them together. Bout $12 each!

Keep it so he can get it any time he wants...Along with dirt, Good Hay and fresh water! He will grow like a weed!
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
The horse grain would work in a pinch but if yours is like ours they have 2 different bags of sweet feed...One bag has purple and one has brown. The purple i believe is the one that has a little bit of cracked corn in it along with a sweet feed mix. Get 1 of each and mix them together. Bout $12 each!

Keep it so he can get it any time he wants...Along with dirt, Good Hay and fresh water! He will grow like a weed!



Is there anything that doesn't have corn in it? I plan to eventually release him back with his own in a protected park, and I don't want him to think he should eat corn when deer corn is famously used by hunters to attract deer.



So I should let him eat however much he wants, and he'll stop when he's full?



By the way, thank you for being so helpful :D I plan to get him some red cap vitamin D milk and alfalfa, hopefully tomorrow. I'll probably mix in a little of his milk formula he's on with the red cap milk, so that he can still get the bacteria that's good for him. I also plan to fence off a part of the horse pen just for him and the chickens.
 
Silverwolf said:
Is there anything that doesn't have corn in it? I plan to eventually release him back with his own in a protected park, and I don't want him to think he should eat corn when deer corn is famously used by hunters to attract deer.



So I should let him eat however much he wants, and he'll stop when he's full?



By the way, thank you for being so helpful :D I plan to get him some red cap vitamin D milk and alfalfa, hopefully tomorrow. I'll probably mix in a little of his milk formula he's on with the red cap milk, so that he can still get the bacteria that's good for him. I also plan to fence off a part of the horse pen just for him and the chickens.



NO CHICKENS!!! Deer and bird crap dont mix! Coccida will make him sick and he willl get the sh!ts!!! The one bag fom Tractor Supply has no corn! Brown wrapped bag!
 
maybe I wasn't clear enough. No straight corn, a little cracked corn in the feed isn't going to hurt him.
 
dtala said:
maybe I wasn't clear enough. No straight corn, a little cracked corn in the feed isn't going to hurt him.



Oh okay, I thought you meant any corn will harm him. Thank you.



Four Seasons Whitetails said:
NO CHICKENS!!! Deer and bird crap dont mix! Coccida will make him sick and he willl get the sh!ts!!! The one bag fom Tractor Supply has no corn! Brown wrapped bag!



He's been with them for 5 weeks now, and he's had healthy pellet feces the entire time. The chickens mainly only defecate in their coop, and the pen is big enough to where any poop they do outside their coop quickly disintegrates.
 
Silverwolf said:
Oh okay, I thought you meant any corn will harm him. Thank you.







He's been with them for 5 weeks now, and he's had healthy pellet feces the entire time. The chickens mainly only defecate in their coop, and the pen is big enough to where any poop they do outside their coop quickly disintegrates.



Luck has been on your side...So Far!!!! Do some research on it and you will find out what it is and causes it! just keep an eye on him!
 
So you feel it's ok to risk what is known to be bad for the fawn by putting it with chickens but your worried about hunters. LOL. It is all about ones perspective I guess...
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
Luck has been on your side...So Far!!!! Do some research on it and you will find out what it is and causes it! just keep an eye on him!

I will - I might fence off a different part of the pen, away from the chickens, if I can. We only have 5 chickens though, 3 of them being miniature, and it's a rather large area for them. They generally stick to the left side of the pen, whereas my fawn prefers the right side.



Originally I wanted him to have most of the backyard to himself; away from the chickens and the horse. But he eats the plants, and he's also learned how to use the doggy door.



IndependenceRanch said:
So you feel it's ok to risk what is known to be bad for the fawn by putting it with chickens but your worried about hunters. LOL. It is all about ones perspective I guess...



First off, I never said it was okay. I only said that it's been 5 weeks and nothing has happened. I can't make a whole new pen for him the very second I learn that it's unhealthy for him to share a large pen with 5 chickens who don't even like to go around the area he stays in. Second, why should I not be worried about hunters? I'm not raising him so that some human can shoot him.



Please do not criticize and belittle me when I am ignorant on the topic of raising a fawn. After all, if I knew everything that's best for him, do you think I would have made this thread? I am doing what I can. Instead of behaving like you are, you could help me out and tell me what I should be doing for him, considering it seems you know everything about anything and have never made a mistake before.



Tcountywhitetails said:
Make sure you gradually introduce the milk, if you switch in a day you will have diarrhea that is really hard to stop

Yes, I am aware of that, but thank you. We use to raise puppies, so I at least know to do that :)
 
Don't know why this hasn't been said already it is Illegal to have a wild deer in the state of Texas you need to find a licensed rehab er and let them do it they know what and how to take care of deer Not to sound like a *** but you are probubly doing more harm then good and as far as hunters go you can raise it how ever you want but you need to face the facts that sooner or later it will probubly come across a hunter you have gotten alot of good advice from some of the best in the industry so i would listen to what they say they have been doing this for years wish you the best of luck with what ever you decide
 
Nick, it was taking all the patience I had to read through these posts. It IS illegal and can become dangerous in the long run if it is a male.

Silverwolf -I have to say I am confused as to why you can't tell the gender...

If the milk you are feeding it is working, stick to it. Just supplement with a mineral paste and as the others said, dirt and alfalfa. A probiotic powder or paste is helpful to give as well. I wouldn't worry about de-worming unless you to take a fecal sample to the veterinarian and have it tested. Most any local feed store can order whitetail fawn feed, just ask.

Good luck, but I suggest you take it to a veterinarian for both you and the fawn's well being.
 
daywoodwhitetails said:
Don't know why this hasn't been said already it is Illegal to have a wild deer in the state of Texas you need to find a licensed rehab er and let them do it they know what and how to take care of deer Not to sound like a *** but you are probubly doing more harm then good and as far as hunters go you can raise it how ever you want but you need to face the facts that sooner or later it will probubly come across a hunter you have gotten alot of good advice from some of the best in the industry so i would listen to what they say they have been doing this for years wish you the best of luck with what ever you decide



I thought the same thing but its not my position to take sides or tell someone what is right,wrong or illegal. Its has been and will continue to be the animals health first with me. But you are right..The whitetail deer needs all the cunning they can get to try and survive the outside world!
 
Silverwolf - Wow...just read all these posts, and you got some good and great info, and yes you received some attitude, of which I would agree was not necessary, at all!!!



As I'm sure you are by now convinced, red cap, the milk you buy in the store that has the red cap, is ok to feed your fawn. Many think it's more than ok, and in fact think it's what you should feed your fawns.

I too had heard for years and years that cow's milk would kill a fawn...that they couldn't digest it. Obviously that's a fallacy!



As you were advised by some, DEFINTELY do a gradual transition from one milk to another. Let the transition take at least 10 days, or up to 2 weeks if you want...that length of time will hurt nothing, but only offer insurance and help.



One of the reasons your fawn is not eating your ''horse hay'' is probably because its all or mostly grass. Pen deer will not eat grass hay. You need to get them GREAT QUALITY alfalfa or clover hay...and even then they seem to waste a good portion of it.

Cut some tree branches with leaves on them that you know the local deer eat. Your fawn will eat them much more readily than anything.



Also to reiterate, get the fawn away from the chickens when you can.



Panacure can be given to fawns, I've done it a lot.



As you have been told, calf manna is good, as well as some or the sweet feeds you can find. Get the textured feed as opposed to the pellet. Expect your fawn NOT to dive into whatever you give him. It will take the fawn some time to begin to eat it. Just keep it in front of him(or her) 24/7.



Speaking of him or her...pick up the fawns tail, and if they are 2 holes back there, it is a doe. And actually, if you look between its legs, and its a buck, you will readily see a scrotum.



I know I probably haven't told you a whole lot more than you've already been told. I was just trying to omit any confusion in case there was some.

I appreciate your heart Silverwolf, as others do on here as well(except maybe one), so you just keep on asking all the questions you need to ask. They'll be those on here that will be more than glad to take care of ya.



Hope the best for you and your little buddy Silverwolf.
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
I thought the same thing but its not my position to take sides or tell someone what is right,wrong or illegal. Its has been and will continue to be the animals health first with me. But you are right..The whitetail deer needs all the cunning they can get to try and survive the outside world!





Sorry if it sounded like I was taking sides was just trying to Inform them of what would be best for them and the fawn as far as being Illegal and not knowing what to do as I am sure most of us would do the same thing they are by trying to help the fawn survive And Ive been told i can sound like an *** so Sorry if this comes off that way wasnt trying to be Hope everbody is haveing a good year so far
 
Hey Nick - Just so you know, and you probably already do, but just in case you don't - My reference to Silverwolf receiving ''attitude'' from someone was not directed at you.



Your info of making Silverwolf aware of the legalities was good pertinent info.



You didn't sound like an a** to me, and I bet you didn't sound that way to Mike or anyone else either.



It's all good! :)
 
Sandridge Whitetails said:
Hey Nick - Just so you know, and you probably already do, but just in case you don't - My reference to Silverwolf receiving ''attitude'' from someone was not directed at you.



Your info of making Silverwolf aware of the legalities was good pertinent info.



You didn't sound like an a** to me, and I bet you didn't sound that way to Mike or anyone else either.



It's all good! :)



Ya got that right Mark!!!!
 
daywoodwhitetails said:
Don't know why this hasn't been said already it is Illegal to have a wild deer in the state of Texas you need to find a licensed rehab er and let them do it they know what and how to take care of deer Not to sound like a *** but you are probubly doing more harm then good and as far as hunters go you can raise it how ever you want but you need to face the facts that sooner or later it will probubly come across a hunter you have gotten alot of good advice from some of the best in the industry so i would listen to what they say they have been doing this for years wish you the best of luck with what ever you decide



I am well aware, but thank you. I've had family members who've done this before, without special formula's or anything like what we have available today, and all of their deer turned out healthy. I feel that taking him to a rehab, an unfamiliar place with unfamiliar people and lots of activity, will only stress him out. He is use to a quiet life, and is only use to myself and a few family members. In fact, just the transition from indoor to outdoor had to be taken quite slowly, he was freaking out so badly that it seemed quite possible he'd harm himself. He is startled by the simplest of sounds, and a rehab is filled with sounds of other orphaned animals. As for hunters, I faced that fact the first day I had him. But there is no harm in trying to protect him. He will be placed in a protected, and very large, city park that is known for having friendly deer. The only way he'll come across a hunter is if they are illegally hunting on park grounds, or if he wanders away. None the less, I understand that his death will eventually come from a hunter.



Lisa said:
Silverwolf -I have to say I am confused as to why you can't tell the gender...

If the milk you are feeding it is working, stick to it. Just supplement with a mineral paste and as the others said, dirt and alfalfa. A probiotic powder or paste is helpful to give as well. I wouldn't worry about de-worming unless you to take a fecal sample to the veterinarian and have it tested. Most any local feed store can order whitetail fawn feed, just ask.

Good luck, but I suggest you take it to a veterinarian for both you and the fawn's well being.



He has no obvious genitalia that identifies male or female, like a puppy or human, so it's not that hard to understand why I don't know his gender. Also, I'm aware that he can be very dangerous if he is a buck. Thank you for your advice. However, considering the legal issues, I can't take him to a vet.



Sandridge Whitetails said:
Silverwolf - Wow...just read all these posts, and you got some good and great info, and yes you received some attitude, of which I would agree was not necessary, at all!!!



As I'm sure you are by now convinced, red cap, the milk you buy in the store that has the red cap, is ok to feed your fawn. Many think it's more than ok, and in fact think it's what you should feed your fawns.

I too had heard for years and years that cow's milk would kill a fawn...that they couldn't digest it. Obviously that's a fallacy!



As you were advised by some, DEFINTELY do a gradual transition from one milk to another. Let the transition take at least 10 days, or up to 2 weeks if you want...that length of time will hurt nothing, but only offer insurance and help.



One of the reasons your fawn is not eating your ''horse hay'' is probably because its all or mostly grass. Pen deer will not eat grass hay. You need to get them GREAT QUALITY alfalfa or clover hay...and even then they seem to waste a good portion of it.

Cut some tree branches with leaves on them that you know the local deer eat. Your fawn will eat them much more readily than anything.



Also to reiterate, get the fawn away from the chickens when you can.



Panacure can be given to fawns, I've done it a lot.



As you have been told, calf manna is good, as well as some or the sweet feeds you can find. Get the textured feed as opposed to the pellet. Expect your fawn NOT to dive into whatever you give him. It will take the fawn some time to begin to eat it. Just keep it in front of him(or her) 24/7.



Speaking of him or her...pick up the fawns tail, and if they are 2 holes back there, it is a doe. And actually, if you look between its legs, and its a buck, you will readily see a scrotum.



I know I probably haven't told you a whole lot more than you've already been told. I was just trying to omit any confusion in case there was some.

I appreciate your heart Silverwolf, as others do on here as well(except maybe one), so you just keep on asking all the questions you need to ask. They'll be those on here that will be more than glad to take care of ya.



Hope the best for you and your little buddy Silverwolf.



Thank you. I was getting quite discouraged from some of the responses I got :)



Anyways, thank you very very much for your help. I have him a small bale of the best alfalfa I could find, and he should be getting some red cap milk pretty soon since our food stamps just came in. He loves the leaves from our trees, and I try and feed him the leaves as much and as often as I can. He also likes horse grain, however he tends to eat it too fast and ends up choking a little. And thank you for telling me how to tell if he's male or female. I'm quite worried that he's actually a he, and at least now I'll be able to either dispel or confirm my suspicions.



And yes there was some confusion, so thank you for clarifying things :D



The only issue I'm having with him now is his alfalfa. I have the bale and everything, but my horse is a pig. I haven't quite figured out how I'm going to build him a small pen that's sturdy enough to keep the horse out, but also able to let me in to care for him. But otherwise, he's doing great. His bare patches are rapidly growing back, and I'd estimate he's about 20 pounds. I'm not quite sure why his fur is growing back now, the only thing that has changed is that he's on a set schedule for feedings.



Lastly, do you know why his eyes are still blue? Nobody seems to have an answer for his eyes.
 
Silverwolf - I meant to but forgot to address that, ie blue eyes.



Unless he's unlike any deer that I've ever seen, those eyes will brown up with age.

Some are just born with the those ice blue eyes like that of a Malamute dog. And they are really cool lookin.



But again, I have never seen them not turn back to the normal color.



God Bless you Silverwolf and your little BUCK! :)
 

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