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Escaped pet deer returned, but......

Joined Aug 2009
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Ohio
Hi all, it's been a while, hope all is well. Yesterday was one of the worst days of my life. I got home from work around 8pm to find my lil Nina had gotten out of the pen. I FREAKED! I started walking around, calling her name, for 3 hours NOTHING! I called friends & family & started a prayer chain, cried my eyes out. Finally, around 11:15pm she came back. I had to cut the pen to get her in - Faline (my oldest doe) was not liking it too much. She was attacking Nina through the fence. I had to put Faline in the house, go back out and get Nina back in the pen. Bless her heart, she was pacing back and forth trying to get into the pen while I was cutting. Some of you may remember some of my posts about how Faline attacks Nina. You would think after 2 years Faline would calm down but she hasn't. I think Nina was trying to get away from Faline. My question is, since last night after Nina returned - she has not been herself. She loves to be in the house but now wants to be outside and I find her pushing against the pen. I think now that she has tasted freedom - she wants more. I am so afraid she is going to try to get out - especially since Faline is aggressive with her. Any advise? Has anyone had a deer escape, return, and act differently? Scariest night of my life.......:(
 
Thank you :) Do you think Faline will always be aggressive towards Nina? I think I am going to have to separate them - which will drive one of them nuts. Nina likes to follow Faline around even though she beats her. Faline sometimes is loving towards her little sister, but in the flip of a switch - terror strikes! I don't know what to make of Faline attacking Nina through the fence last night. She laid her ears back against her head and charged the fence after her. After I put Faline in the house and got Nina back in the pen - they reunited and all was fine. What was up with that????!! I thought for sure Faline was going to attack her given she was sooooo aggressive when Nina was on the other side of the fence. My stress level is out of this world right now, LOL!
 
I am not so sure faline knew that the deer on the other side of the fence was nina.She might have thought it was just another strange deer and she didnt like it there.I have seen mine do the same thing to deer on the outside of my fence.
 
Gail, How did Nina get out? I'm just wondering if something happened to cause the escape
 
Deerchaser: I thought about that - would that calm her down? Also, how in the world would I set that up?????

Jerry: We have LOTS of trees, love them and hate them! It amazed me because the area of the pen where she jumped - the fence is like 12ft high! But, she did not clear it - it was bent and the part that was nailed to the tree was bent. She apparently got caught in the fence because there was a ton of fur on the ground and she has cuts and scrapes on her back legs, belly, and butt. It could have been so much worse. I am sooooo thankful she did not break anything, or......you know.



I don't know, maybe something spooked her, but I really think Faline had a lot to do with it. I see what she does to Nina - Faline chases her and when she catches up to her - hoofs her. DRIVES ME NUTS!!!!! I hate it and don't know what to do to stop it.
 
The question is what made her jump the fence? Are there wild deer in the area that can access the fenceline? Here's a thought..........check Nina to see if she is developing an udder. Yea I know you don't have a buck, but if wild deer can get to the fence then it is possible one may have jumped in and done the deed then exited like I used to do when I was young. I have also seen a doe on one side of a fence get bred by a buck on the other side. She was a pretty "loose" woman if you know what I mean. If she is making an uddder, then that would explain the fence jumping. If not, you need to try to figure out what sent her up and over.



Scott
 
Scott, if that is the case, why would she jump the fence? To answer your question, yes, we have lots of wild deer. In fact, this past fall part of my fence was beaten up from the outside - I was thinking it was done by a buck. Faline got hurt in the process - she had a bad cut under her front leg. Where would I find the udder, I know it would be located on her belly - but would it be towards the back or middle? I'm getting nervous at the thought of this scenario!!!!!
 
The reason she may have wanted out of the pen was to locate a suitable secluded area in which to fawn. The answer to your question..........."Where do I find the udder?".................Get ready Mitch...............natrually it is located on the udder side!



Seriously, look between the back legs and see if she is making a bag (milk sack). If not, all you will see is 4 tight teets and no sack.
 
Gail check out some pictures of the nursing fawns in the folders of our fellow deer owners. That might help with location of udders.
 
Maybe what you need is a stag buck. That is one that can't seal the deal come rut time. I know you are not looking to multiply so a stag may help bring peace in the family. Just a thought.



I think seperating them could cause undesired behavioral changes. I did that once and my lone deer paced and stressed immensely over being alone in the pen.



How did Faline act when nina was missing?
 
Does that are going to fawn will run off unbred does and bucks. So maybe the one that jumped the fence isn't bred and the other one is. this would also explain the aggressive behavior to the doe that jumped the fence. I have a doe that is soon to fawn and she trys to bite my breeder buck through the fence when he is close to her pen, and beat the snot out of a yearling doe that she has been with all along with no aggressive behavior ever before.
 
Scott: LOL....On the udder side, that was funny :) I did not see anything on her belly, just the little nipples or teets....... Thank goodnes.....



Rusty: Hmmm, interesting thought. Do I just need to locate someone with a stag for rent? LOL, I am all about the peace thing - I hate it when Faline gets aggressive with Nina. Faline seemed fine when Nina was missing, however; I was at work all day and did not get home until 8pm. Usually the girls are at the back door before I even make it into the house, but this time it was only Faline. I went outside called for Nina and she never came. I checked all three hiding places and she was nowhere to be found. What's amazing is before I even made it to that side of the pen, I asked my dogs "where's Nina?" Two of them shot across the pen to the other side and went right to the spot where she jumped. That's when I saw the bent fence and on the other side - clumps of fur on the ground. Animals amaze me. That's when I FREAKED! The feeling in my stomach and chest was so overwhelming. 3 hours later she came home, praise the Lord! She was pacing the fence (on the other side) trying to get in - but Faline was trying to attack her. I had to get Faline inside - go back out - cut the pen, then she came in thru the opening. When she reunited with Faline I thought heck would break loose after the drama at the fence, but Faline just looked at her and went about her business. Nina was not herself the next couple of days but she is getting back to normal. She loves to sleep inside but for 2 nights she wanted to be outside and she kept going to the area where she jumped. Last night I started to see a change though - she came inside and went right to her bed, laid down, stretched out and slept the whole night. I was so happy!! That sick feeling in my stomach is starting to go away too, but I think the worry will always be there. Didn't think raising deer would be so stressful, LOL! It's not so much them - it's me - I just worry about them when I am not home - you just never know what could happen, ya know? I love them waaaayyyyyy too much!!



Thank you to everyone for posting. You guys are AWESOME!! GOD BLESS YOU!!
 
I think Tundra Ridge brings up a good point. The does we have that are bred are the ones that are aggressive. They often run off the younger unbred does in the pen with them. So maybe you should check Faline to see if she looks like she will fawn. That could explaine why she got scratched up last fall and why the fence was damaged. Just a thought. Best of luck!

Nick Biser

Team Biser Whitetails
 
Last year I had a bred doe that other bred does were striking at. Some of the strikes were head butts to the stomach region. After seeing that I have a hard time being convinced the attack was because she was unbred. There were other unbred does in the pen but not picked on like my baby. She was only a yearling doe and juvenile to the hen peckers so that I can see can be a cause of the agressive behavior.
 
Now scott you are just inviting me me to comment !! LMAO !! I`ll just read and smile !!!
 

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