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dtala

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I'm a rehabber, have been for 30 years. One problem I've encountered over the years is taking in an older two to three month old fawn that has had some kind of trauma and is in shock. Like "real tame" when they ought to be bouncing off the walls shocky.



I lost a fawn today that had been attacked by dogs, had it's tail bit off, but no other noticeable injuries. Fawn was picked up this am, I got it maybe 100pm, it was dead by 3pm. I gave it 200cc D5 sub que, 1/2cc dex, and 1/2cc B-12.



Anybody got a better solution to treating these "shocky" fawns????



thanks



troy
 
that sux....thats the same treatment I do.... i have a large metal dog crate in my "nursery" that is where they go when i first get them. total quiet (with a blanket covering most of it and no one in the room but me) with some kool aid water (i find mine love the kool aid vs a pedialyte solution) and some feed in the bowls for 24 hours, then I start the assessment. For ME, its been better to get them thru the first initial shock period (if injured) before i startle them with handling. Much easier to deal with the smaller ones, but this time of year, the larger ones are the ones that I am getting too
 
that has been my thoughts as well. I'm rethinking to a faster initial treatment and putting them in with the other fawns?



Just being alone in a strange place will stress them.



I'm just looking for something that works...and I do know that I can't save all of them, but it makes me mad to lose one that has very little physical injury, but just "gives up" and dies.



troy
 
The fawn might have been affected by CM. Don't know how reversible that is?? They need to be kept warm and their heads need to be covered when moved and they need isolation and quiet. But, not all of them are strong enough to bear such stressful events... sadly...
 
i keep mine in the house for several days.. after a day or 2 in the room, WHEN they have calmed down and are no longer running from me, i move them to the large crate in the den. it is covered halfway with a blanket. IF the deer is adjusting and taking a bottle or eating well and seems calm after 4 or 5 days like that, then I move out to the pen with the others.....I personally have had great "stress free" adjustments that way and the deer in the pen are able to be handled and come running for the bottles...as they get older I am in the pen only to feed, and they generally start going "back to wild" as the nature...Now if anyone else goes near the pen, they spook and take off
 
Rene, thats close to what I have done in the past..



my problem is I have lost several fawns in the first 24 hours that I never got stabilized, fawns that came in the door in moderate to severe shock. I'm thinking, and rethinking possible treatments for those fawns to stabilize or even jump start them.



troy
 
IV fluids? I know thats an initial tx in the ER... but then again, shock made even worse from the IV....kinda like a catch 22 either way you go. I am constantly on the lookout for better ways to treat or handle situations. Sometimes all you can do it try
 
Sub Q fluids for animals with any vitamins or meds added into the drip. Finding a vein is pretty tough for newbies like me.
 
i am lucky that hubby is a seasoned pharmacist with hospital experience. hes great on the IV stuff, and meds but i will tell you something that i have found to work faster and better for me..............i used alot of canned pumpkin to stop the runs, well i eat alot of fruit (especially dried fruits) and always have it in the house. my Boy Boy developed the scours from his Penicillin and the thickeners and pumpkin wasnt cuttin it fast enuf. well long story short, we were in the den watching a movie and i was eating dried mango. Boy Boy insisted on sharing too, and so i let him have a few slices. the next morning, he was firmed back up. I backed off the pumpkin and the thickener and let him have a few slices of it for a treat...scours are gone.......hmmmm
 
fast, short term fluids I give sub que. I think the effort to stick a vein causes too much shock on an already shocked fawn. And the veins are hard to stick on a dehydrated, crashing fawn. My wife works infant critical care floor at the hospital and can stick anything, but those fawns are tough.



Lanasvet, I add any vits and meds into the SQ drip to avoid further stressing the fawn.



What fluids are you using?? Mostly on crashing fawns I use D5 or D5 1/2.



troy
 
yeah i keep fluids for a quick hydrate right off the bat any fluids are better than none.. sometimes i am lucky and a bowl of orange koolaid will do the trick without sticking
 
dtala, I feel you I also have lost many of fawns due to stress after dog attack / fence, they have to have the will. I've had some with the same injuries same age some pulled through some not. I use natural herbs. for stress 1 capsule of DMG 1 cap of selenium 1000 vit E and syrup for energy. Wish i had a better answer. Will keep reading post maybe some one will give us a answer.
 

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