Fawn walking in circles

dearjohn - If you slide the tube in slowly, sometimes you will feel somewhat of a dead end, and this can be one of the times the fawn will swallow hence allowing/directing the tube to enter the esophagus. Doing this slow enough I think is key. As far as ''knowing'' your in the right place: Place fingers gently on each side of the trachea, and they don't have to be yours, and one can readily feel the tube passing through the esophagus as it parallels the trachea on it's way to the stomach. You won't feel it if it's in the trachea because of it's hard cartiledge. Prior to starting, measure the distance to the stomach by placing the tube along side their body from their mouth to where their stomach is (half way between shoulders and hips) so you know when you are in far enough.

Sandridge Whitetails said:

dearjohn - If you slide the tube in slowly, sometimes you will feel somewhat of a dead end, and this can be one of the times the fawn will swallow hence allowing/directing the tube to enter the esophagus. Doing this slow enough I think is key. As far as ''knowing'' your in the right place: Place fingers gently on each side of the trachea, and they don't have to be yours, and one can readily feel the tube passing through the esophagus as it parallels the trachea on it's way to the stomach. You won't feel it if it's in the trachea because of it's hard cartiledge. Prior to starting, measure the distance to the stomach by placing the tube along side their body from their mouth to where their stomach is (half way between shoulders and hips) so you know when you are in far enough.

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thank you!

Listeriosis - caused by the bacteria Listeria monocytogenes, found in soil, water, plant litter, silage and deer's digestive tract. Brought on by feeding silage, sudden changes in kind of feed, parasitism, dramatic weather changes and advanced stages of pregnancy.

Symptoms - Depression, decreased appetite, fever, leaning or stumbling or moving in one direction only, head pulled to flank with rigid neck, facial paralysis on one side, slack jaw, and drooling, abortions.

Treatment - Administration of 2cc Procaine penicillin every six hours for three to five days, then daily for an additional seven days.



(Goat Polio) - a Thiamine (Vitamin B 1) deficiency. From improper feeding, particularly feeding too much grain and too little roughage



Symptoms - Excitability, "stargazing", muscle rigidity, uncoordinated staggering and/or weaving, drunkenness, circling, diarrhea, muscle tremor, head against wall, and apparent blindness. A rapid, involuntary, oscillatory motion of the eyeball. As it progresses, convulsions and high fever may occur, and if untreated, the animal generally dies within 24-72 hours.

Treatment - Thiamine is the only effective therapy, and treatment can result in improvement in as little as two hours, if the disease is caught early enough. Dosage is related to body weight:

Use 500mg/ml Thiamin. Start with a gram (1,000 mg) IM the first dose, then at least 500mg per day for as long as it takes for complete recovery. Give 10cc Penicillin orally, and 10cc SQ at first treatment. Polio can be caused by plant thiaminase, or bacteria that either inhibit production of thiamin in the deer's gut, or consume the thiamin. Since we don't know what the origin is, It is preferred to sterilize the gut, and start over. So, the oral penicillin will kill the bacteria if that is the cause. On the morning of day 2, calf pac the fawn, and give 500mg Thiamin orally, and 500mg SQ. Do not repeat any of the penicillin. If the fawn will eat, feed it. If it can't eat, tube it or drench it with 100cc of Revive, 100cc of water several times a day until it can eat.

Sandridge Whitetails said:

dearjohn - If you slide the tube in slowly, sometimes you will feel somewhat of a dead end, and this can be one of the times the fawn will swallow hence allowing/directing the tube to enter the esophagus. Doing this slow enough I think is key. As far as ''knowing'' your in the right place: Place fingers gently on each side of the trachea, and they don't have to be yours, and one can readily feel the tube passing through the esophagus as it parallels the trachea on it's way to the stomach. You won't feel it if it's in the trachea because of it's hard cartiledge. Prior to starting, measure the distance to the stomach by placing the tube along side their body from their mouth to where their stomach is (half way between shoulders and hips) so you know when you are in far enough.

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Great advice, but one more thing to ensure you are in the right place. Attach a syringe to the feeding tube and aspirate (pull back on the plunger to draw some fluid up) and as long as you see fluid, you are in the right place. You wont always get fluid on the first try, so adjust tube and try again. Always be sure to put back whatever stomach fluid you see in the syring.



As you remove the tube from the fawn, be sure to put a kink in it before you start to pull it out. This ensures that no stomach acid drips out of the tube and flow back down the trachea into the lungs.

Warnerade said:

Great advice, but one more thing to ensure you are in the right place. Attach a syringe to the feeding tube and aspirate (pull back on the plunger to draw some fluid up) and as long as you see fluid, you are in the right place. You wont always get fluid on the first try, so adjust tube and try again. Always be sure to put back whatever stomach fluid you see in the syring.



As you remove the tube from the fawn, be sure to put a kink in it before you start to pull it out. This ensures that no stomach acid drips out of the tube and flow back down the trachea into the lungs.

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where did you get your tubing. Syringe like for useing on a turkey ?

No I mean an actual medical syringe used for giving medicine, etc...any size will work as long as it attaches to the tube. I have no idea where our feeding tube came from, someone that used to help us out got it for us a year or ago.