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Edgar, WI
Genetic improvement ???
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Joined Apr 2009
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Cascade, Iowa
Happy Thanksgiving
I'm thankful for the whitetails deer, great people I know because of Deerfarming, and this site.
I agree with Dennis, I wish someone could post they'er opinion without getting bashed. That's why I do not post much.
I personaly reduced my numbers. With the bigger bucks I had this fall being under half price, it became a rough fall paying bills.
Oopps, probaly said too much negitive, I'll get a bashing, lol
Todd Hosch
Hosch-A-Bye Whitetails
I'm thankful for the whitetails deer, great people I know because of Deerfarming, and this site.
I agree with Dennis, I wish someone could post they'er opinion without getting bashed. That's why I do not post much.
I personaly reduced my numbers. With the bigger bucks I had this fall being under half price, it became a rough fall paying bills.
Oopps, probaly said too much negitive, I'll get a bashing, lol
Todd Hosch
Hosch-A-Bye Whitetails
Joined Apr 2009
343 Posts | 0+
Cascade, Iowa
Thanks for liking are deer Roger now that everyone knows you would have used him we will probly sell out. Or wait maybe no one will use him cause the great oh mighty deer god has spoken. I am so sory Roger please forgive me. By the way I only speak what is on my mind I do not dislike you i just don't like the way you come across as if you or your ideas are better than others. A good man takes critism in looks at himself and then uses it to better himself. You do make a few good points once in a while but you still have much to learn as do I. From here on out lets try to not personaly attack people or their ideas.
Joined Oct 2009
3,165 Posts | 1+
upstate ny
Thats the problem!!! There are a few on here that really do care. Roger if you think you are reading the right thing's in my post you are worse off than i thought you were. When someone asks a question and i reply i try to give any side i can.Its not real hard to figure out. Just like i said there are 3 ways to do it. Auctions,pedigrees,shooters. Well the fact is if you dont use the highest dollar animals and semen= No auction If you breed for paper alot of times that means crap to the next guy in line and you know that for a fact!!! So yes any bright farmer that wants to pay his bills and not go broke doing it will go to what makes this whole deer world turn and that is hunt's. The small guy(Not big guy's like yourself that makes a half a mill) had better get a few good producing does and take advantage of all the great semen and great prices on that semen.You get on here and bad mouth people about their spelling and crap like that is a joke.
Roger, it's a good thing a lot of people don't do business as you do or you probably would not have made that half million you made this year as I am certain there are a lot that don't like your "dirty tactics" and have still purchased from you........Russell does own the site and yes it is his decision on who goes and who stays......but i am certain you had some persuading in what happened with DC. geez and now it sounds like you are threatening to beat people up on private messages........DC didn't say anything like that and got kicked off......Anyhow thanks for the compliment on Extra Gold.....I not worried about his sales as he will sell himself........I'm just not sure that I would sell you a straw because of your "dirty Tactics" you seem to play by. Ok I knew I would get swept into this when I commented earlier and it is what it is........I have had differences in the past with a few others on here and have made it right by contacting them ........you Roger are the only one that I have not been able to make amends with and I have tried.....this very well tells me your true character ..........I have also heard some of the other things you posted to people in private that would shock a lot of the people on here that you have miss led by YOUR dirty tactics!
Rodney
I personally am sorry for your thread being completely thrown off track........I hope we can get back to the original question you asked and hope you get the advice you were looking for.
I personally am sorry for your thread being completely thrown off track........I hope we can get back to the original question you asked and hope you get the advice you were looking for.
Joined Oct 2009
3,165 Posts | 1+
upstate ny
Dennis,Rodney sent me a pm and we had a nice conversation on how a little guy can survive. Half a mill...Thats funny right there,I dont care who you are!!!
.Guy's didnt want to cause any trouble. I have my idea's of how to breed my deer but at this point it's just a theory. My first deer that I made the decision's on are just 2011 fawn's. I was just asking how some of you that have done it for year's, what you have learned. My only goal is to produce the best doe's that I can, I am not all about inch's of antler. More about doe's that produce great looking antler and big frame. I also do not beleive that a small farm like myself has to buy 5-10K straw's and 20k doe's to do good. Actualy I think for me it's quite the oppiset. If I spent that kind of cash (if I had it to spend) it would almost guarantee me to be in the red forever as I will not ever be selling top end breeder's. For Me at this point I am willing to buy what I think is top quality semen some of it I think can be bought for as little as 100.00 up to 2k for something I think I just must have to get the doe's that I want. Again I may be wrong but there are only a few line's I want to use at this time and every straw I use or buy will have these buck's in there somewhere and also look for top doe's in the pedigre (the exception is the clean typical's and I go more for look of the buck there) they are Maxbo, Rolex, PA Geronimo and anything Flee's. Any way time to go eat, but all I was asking is how do you go about improving you female offspring. Buck's I am not worried about I know they just come from good doe's.There are a few that I have talked to and I do trust that they are telling me right direction to go.
When purchacing semen from lines that tickle my fancy. I look to there sons to do the job. I wanted Maxbo Ranger and couldn't afford $18000 so we went with Midnight Ranger (possibly the most productive Ranger son to date) Maxbo $12000 we went with Maxbo Velocity. He had a great framey look that I like. Rolled Gold I saw at the time for $6000 so we went with HeadGear. We placed HeadGear in our typical lines to ad mass and some points.
There are alot of great deals out there but you can still get some of the Top Breeder's lines at a fraction of there cost by buying semen from some of there sons. There is a back edge to this and im sure not all will agree with me on the above. I know that this comes with its draw backs along the lines of some of these sires are not known producers and it is a gamble. But if you do you do your research and follow the doe on the bottom side ( Anchors ) You could end up with some great doe and some big bucks.
Good Luck
There are alot of great deals out there but you can still get some of the Top Breeder's lines at a fraction of there cost by buying semen from some of there sons. There is a back edge to this and im sure not all will agree with me on the above. I know that this comes with its draw backs along the lines of some of these sires are not known producers and it is a gamble. But if you do you do your research and follow the doe on the bottom side ( Anchors ) You could end up with some great doe and some big bucks.
Good Luck