Here are some thoughts to consider:
1. Deer farmers are 5+ yrs CWD monitored to move deer as well as TB/Bruc and make sure they have all of their paper work in place before even thinking about moving an animal. In Missouri our Conservation Dept. sells in excess of 500,000 deer hunting permits and annually harvest 250,000 Whitetail Deer from hunters all over the U.S., that in return haul these deer back across state lines with no worry of testing for CWD or any other disease. Correct me if I am wrong but what is the difference here. It is stated that CWD proins remain in the ground and can be contracted from the bone and spinal cord tissue. (Bull $%@#) Another thing to ask yourself when reading this post is Why are these wild deer that are harvested being allowed to leave the state with no test, but you and I are CWD Monitored and we can not if you fall in the endemic zone (a 25 mile radius), and your deer have all the necessary paper work in place.
2. Our deer are alive and healthy and we are still required to test our animals when one dies. Shouldn't the Wild deer that anyone finds dead be tested for any disease that might have killed it? The Conservation Dept would say no because the cost would be to high. It is all about money until it is you or I and then they say we should have to test all of our animals because if we want to keep our license you have to follow the rules. It is just like the deer hit by cars. The Conservation Dept says the deer are owned by you and I, and our insurance company has to pay when that happens, but just as soon as they can fine a person they will be right on your door step to write the ticket because they own the deer that you or I violated a law against.
3. There is an 80% live test available by testing the rectal lymph node, why are we not using it in our live animals. I would say because a 100% dead test on 100% of our farmed whitetails is going to show that cervid farmers are the people causing CWD, and that is just what the powers that be want. They hold the upper hand and we have to figure out how to circumvent these policies. By making us test 100% of our animals we are their scape goats, and in public perception that is just what they want.
4. Why are we not using CWD positive herds as test facilities? Double fence them and use them for experimental education. This 800 acres in question in Missouri is only a small tract of land in a 5000-8000 acre ranch that right now the owner has for sale, and could be used just for this type of testing. The owner of the positive test in Missouri has his ranch listed for sale in the sum of $21,500,000. I would say he (the owner) could afford to let them use this piece of land as a test facility, wouldn't you?
5. There are no trace back or trace forwards on this particular farm because they have only bought deer and moved them in, they have not sold any deer in the last 10 years. It seems funny that the deer in question did not have an ear tag or number to reference back to, but they are sure it was from a buck that was born on this farm. Also seems funny that this deer in question was taken on the smallest tract of land that they own and not on the hunting preserve itself, which sets the $5,000,000 lodge that they are in the midst of trying to sell.
Why are farms in a 25 mile radius not able to move deer? The Conservation Dept is going to still sell permits for the farm that is right up against this farm, and an out of state hunter could harvest a deer there and take it back to any state he wishes with no reason to test for anything.
6. The whole CWD thing started in 1967 in Colorado in a Mule Deer herd. When the Mule Deer had fawns they kept the fawns and turned out the excess does back in to the public and private properties, even after they knew they had a problem (CWD). Then it was not until 1981 that any of the wild animals were know to have any problems. That is 14 years if my math is right. That was a Colorado state ran testing facility. Maybe we should go back and make them accountable.
7. How many Farmed Cervids have been tested since CWD was first mandatory in the Whitetail Industry? How many positives have been found in the tested Farm Raised animals? Now how many Wild Cervids have been tested and how many positives have been found? I will bet you that the % of farmed raised positives found is lower than the % of wild tested to positives found. Does our industry need our own testing facility, we test half and they test half of the Medulla (the part of the brain that is tested).
8. Maybe CWD is a naturally occurring symptom in Cervids just like Alzheimers in humans. A deer has a much higher metabolism than a human and maybe deer age faster than humans like a dog (7 years in human life) and some get CWD and some do not. I can tell you that many studies have been done and no one can tell you where or why CWD is going to be found or in Which animal.
9. They say CWD is spread by Urine, Feces, saliva, body to body contact, and the ground. If this is true what are the states that have found CWD in the wild doing that you and I are not doing to control the spread. Nothing, we (cervid farmers) are the only ones that are doing anything, they are doing nothing.
If anyone has the answers to any of these questions please call me or post it on here. You can private message me on here if you want so your name will not be made public if you choose to do so.
1. Deer farmers are 5+ yrs CWD monitored to move deer as well as TB/Bruc and make sure they have all of their paper work in place before even thinking about moving an animal. In Missouri our Conservation Dept. sells in excess of 500,000 deer hunting permits and annually harvest 250,000 Whitetail Deer from hunters all over the U.S., that in return haul these deer back across state lines with no worry of testing for CWD or any other disease. Correct me if I am wrong but what is the difference here. It is stated that CWD proins remain in the ground and can be contracted from the bone and spinal cord tissue. (Bull $%@#) Another thing to ask yourself when reading this post is Why are these wild deer that are harvested being allowed to leave the state with no test, but you and I are CWD Monitored and we can not if you fall in the endemic zone (a 25 mile radius), and your deer have all the necessary paper work in place.
2. Our deer are alive and healthy and we are still required to test our animals when one dies. Shouldn't the Wild deer that anyone finds dead be tested for any disease that might have killed it? The Conservation Dept would say no because the cost would be to high. It is all about money until it is you or I and then they say we should have to test all of our animals because if we want to keep our license you have to follow the rules. It is just like the deer hit by cars. The Conservation Dept says the deer are owned by you and I, and our insurance company has to pay when that happens, but just as soon as they can fine a person they will be right on your door step to write the ticket because they own the deer that you or I violated a law against.
3. There is an 80% live test available by testing the rectal lymph node, why are we not using it in our live animals. I would say because a 100% dead test on 100% of our farmed whitetails is going to show that cervid farmers are the people causing CWD, and that is just what the powers that be want. They hold the upper hand and we have to figure out how to circumvent these policies. By making us test 100% of our animals we are their scape goats, and in public perception that is just what they want.
4. Why are we not using CWD positive herds as test facilities? Double fence them and use them for experimental education. This 800 acres in question in Missouri is only a small tract of land in a 5000-8000 acre ranch that right now the owner has for sale, and could be used just for this type of testing. The owner of the positive test in Missouri has his ranch listed for sale in the sum of $21,500,000. I would say he (the owner) could afford to let them use this piece of land as a test facility, wouldn't you?
5. There are no trace back or trace forwards on this particular farm because they have only bought deer and moved them in, they have not sold any deer in the last 10 years. It seems funny that the deer in question did not have an ear tag or number to reference back to, but they are sure it was from a buck that was born on this farm. Also seems funny that this deer in question was taken on the smallest tract of land that they own and not on the hunting preserve itself, which sets the $5,000,000 lodge that they are in the midst of trying to sell.
Why are farms in a 25 mile radius not able to move deer? The Conservation Dept is going to still sell permits for the farm that is right up against this farm, and an out of state hunter could harvest a deer there and take it back to any state he wishes with no reason to test for anything.
6. The whole CWD thing started in 1967 in Colorado in a Mule Deer herd. When the Mule Deer had fawns they kept the fawns and turned out the excess does back in to the public and private properties, even after they knew they had a problem (CWD). Then it was not until 1981 that any of the wild animals were know to have any problems. That is 14 years if my math is right. That was a Colorado state ran testing facility. Maybe we should go back and make them accountable.
7. How many Farmed Cervids have been tested since CWD was first mandatory in the Whitetail Industry? How many positives have been found in the tested Farm Raised animals? Now how many Wild Cervids have been tested and how many positives have been found? I will bet you that the % of farmed raised positives found is lower than the % of wild tested to positives found. Does our industry need our own testing facility, we test half and they test half of the Medulla (the part of the brain that is tested).
8. Maybe CWD is a naturally occurring symptom in Cervids just like Alzheimers in humans. A deer has a much higher metabolism than a human and maybe deer age faster than humans like a dog (7 years in human life) and some get CWD and some do not. I can tell you that many studies have been done and no one can tell you where or why CWD is going to be found or in Which animal.
9. They say CWD is spread by Urine, Feces, saliva, body to body contact, and the ground. If this is true what are the states that have found CWD in the wild doing that you and I are not doing to control the spread. Nothing, we (cervid farmers) are the only ones that are doing anything, they are doing nothing.
If anyone has the answers to any of these questions please call me or post it on here. You can private message me on here if you want so your name will not be made public if you choose to do so.
