Red Cap Facts

Ha you just mad my goats are better than yours!!!

Well I guess joking is not permitted on this thread! I was hoping that we as a group could get over this. Did you take the JD, bud lite, busch serious to. 2:00 in the morning I thought it was funny and hoping to get to put the arguing to rest but nooo!! David I surprized that you would think I was serious, Virgil debate this, stick a whole gallon of red cap up your ??????? I think I'll stay off of this thread, life is to short. I have said in the past if it works for you stay with it. Just one old "FADING" mans opinion. ZZ

Zz, i knew you was joking,so was I. i think it over,other than joking i see.i also thought was funny,and was hoping for more. litten some these people up!!!is my thinking,DC

Ouch.........cmon guys....I hate seeing this kind of bickering....I knew ZZ was joking from the start.......you need to read a thread a couple times sometimes before you assume what it meant...........it is very easy to make someone mad by what you write.....so we all need to think before we write.......lets dro this red cap post for good it has been nothing but a fight from the beginning!!

ZZ, I was just joking around sorry if i affended you no harm ment but come on a whole gallon thats alot of milk to waste. Hey Dennis i now you like to try new things but i think zz was jokeing so don't try it.

Tooo Late what a mess!!!

I guess the only one that took it serious was me. Jokes on me! Virgil I apoligize. Later in the day I read my post and did get a chuckle out of it. Just kind of a funny picture, thats one way to win a debate! I had to laugh at myself for taking life so serious! Guys thanks for putting up with me and again I apoligize! I'm still going to stay off of this thread been nothing but trouble! I guess I'll blame it on Ferguson. ZZ

Zz i kina thought tx heat, was getting bad down there, we old timers need keep that in mind,

Maybe we should pitch in and by zz a airconditioner.just kidden

Virgil may need too, he really seems,to be fading here lately,i little concerned.

Maybe I could use a cold milk enemma to cool me off some! Oh yea I forgot I'm staying off of this thread!!! ZZ

It's a little messy but don't knock it till you try it....I AM REALLY A RED CAP FAN NOW!!

Heck we know you hard core from the start,are you saying more so now after cold gallon redcap enama,

DD



I don't know if you realized this but I don't think you were supposed to leave the cap on.

Well I looked and the darn jug didn't have any directions on it

Dennis try a bag of replacer see i you get same effect.

no that give me bloat......I'm already dealing withn that problem

Should be alright as long as you follow directions on bag.Can.t feed all you want like red cap. might kill ya!

Ferguson288 said:

Wow...seems like every time i post, it starts and argument....no more of this arguing....we are all in this business together...everyone use what u want....if somethin works for you, use it....thanks for all the help though

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Ahh, don't worry about the arguments, we wouldn't argue/debate/rib if the questions you ask are not good ones ....

Buckskin said:

Hey Jack, Not looking for a fight but everything I've seen on deer milk list the protein at 8.2% and the fat at 7.7%. That's alot closer to the cow,goat,horse,and most other animals I've checked on. The 29% of fat content in the replacers is the dry content before mixing it with water. After mixing it is 8.6% We had this disscussion on another thread with John Swank and he helped clear up the dry vs. wet %. Rick

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Rick, that is the way I understand dry matter vs. wet matter basis. Keep in mind though, you can fluctuate the nutritional content of the milk replacers by the amount of water you add to the mix. Not all milk replacers when mixed will be exactly 8.6% protein. Just thought I would clear that up since I kind of got drug into this topic, again...





For those of you that would like to know the average percent composition of milks of several species of ruminants, I'll post some of the data provided by Helenette Silver, which is available in the Journal of Wildlife Management, Vol 25, No 1. pp 67 - with the study being in regards to Deer Milk Compared with Substitute Milk for Fawns.





Species ---- %Water ---- Protein --- Fat --- Sugar --- Ash

Cow --------- 86.21 ------- 3.77 ----- 4.45 -- 4.86 ---- 0.72 Raw Milk

Cow --------- 87.90 ------- 3.13 ----- 3.65 -- 4.50 ---- 0.72 Whole Milk (red cap)

Goat ---------87.14 ------- 3.71 ----- 4.09 -- 4.20 ---- 0.78

Sheep ------- 82.90 ------- 5.44 ----- 6.24 -- 4.29 ---- 0.85

Reindeer----- 63.30 ------- 10.30 ----19.73 -- 2.50 ---- 1.44

Deer -------- 67.77 ------- 11.92 ----15.06 -- 3.75 ---- 1.51 This study (from live deer)

Deer -------- 66.51 ------- 11.50 ---- 18.00 - 2.22 ---- 1.77 This study (from dead deer)

Evap milk --- 73.80 -------- 7.0 ------ 7.9 --- 9.8 ------ 1.5



Hope this information was helpful.



Has anybody ever tried undiluted evaporated milk?



Good luck,

John





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