Thats why "I" stress to new poeple to check the survivalbility of an animal before they buy it. Nothing against ANY bloodlines, but every deer is built different. This southern Oklahoma heat can be HELL on a whitetail. Even the distance between me and MP, we live about 4 hours apart, and there is a big climate change between us. M wifes family live about 10 miles from MP, and they get several snows a year. I might get a good snow once every three years. The pictures of me and the family on my website in the snow was a BIG deal to us. My little girl might see 7-10 good snows during her childhood. Im evan real picky on what semen to introduce to my herd, always checking the deers personal background(ask Randy on Miken), to see about the toughness of the animal himself. Thats why I like my PJ buck so well, him or his sire has never been sick, and means alot to me. Sorry about the soap box-----sitting in my work truck cooling off--go figure.