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What antibiotic do I administer when sedating deer?

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I have been using 6 cc on NuFloor. I want to start using Tetracycline instead. Any opinions? I think it will be just as effective and costs much less. I will be using on "healthy" deer.







Thanks



Karl Keller

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One concern I had was “overmedicating” an animal that was healthy. I was also looking at it from a cost standpoint and I don’t want to cause a resistance because I used a “stronger” antibiotic than needed.

I guess the real question is should I use Nuflor or Tetradure instead of LA 200. I know they are “better” but do they really need it?
 
I use Tetradure to help with any effects of trauma due to darting.It is the same as LA 200,just last longer.
 
Jason and FawnMommy thanks for your input.

How much are you giving when darting? What is the cost? are you giving it to "sick" deer also?



Karl
 
Jason and FawnMommy thanks for your input.

How much are you giving when darting? What is the cost? are you giving it to "sick" deer also?



Karl
 
fawn mommy I have to ask what experience do you have with deer your porfile says you bottle fed some fawns. Have you been there when the are ai'ed or when vacinations are being given? Have you been there to give a fawn his or her first dose of fastrack? Have you had to diagnosis a deer that isn't feeling well? You seem to think you know quite a bit about deers and I find that interesting seeing as how the vets at NADeFA said there isn't really any teaching in veterinary school for deer so where are you getting your info from?
 
I'm an undergraduate senior majoring in Animal Science, Biology and Pre-Veterinary Medicine



Sounds like she has more training then most of us however we all need to be careful when reccomending drugs, that said we also use Tetradure
 
I don;t know if I consider bottle feeding a deer more training then a deer farmer who has been doing it for years. At a NADeFA seminar with a vet from Texas he said that he went in to veterniary hoping to get trained to work on deer but there wasn't any training so I wonder how she is getting training. Just wondering about her real life experiences which I think are way more important.
 
Rick



Thanks for you input. Can you give me a little more info on how and when you use Tetradure please.



Thanks



Karl
 
FawnMommy, I am not real sure why you were given you such a hard time. I thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and experences with me. You never presented yourself as an "expert". I am also new to the business and was looking to this form to get advice and share ideas from people involved in the breeding industry. No one person is an expert in everything.



I hope one day I can offer you advise on an issue.



Thanks again
 
I think we average 5cc per deer when we give tetradure depending on body size.I give it to any deer I dart healthy or sick.I recommend getting the smaller bottle unless you use alot,we got the large bottle and it expired before we used it all.Fawnmommy thanks for your post on here,your input is valued.
 
peeps2205, Dr. McBride is the texan you mentioned and he is an excelent source of information and very willing to answer any ?
 
Karl,

We use Tetradure on all deer we put down they do not need to be sick... according to our vet Shane we administer up to 6cc per adult deer
 
Tetradure is a brand name for oxytetracyclene. There are many different brand names, concentrations and variations of the base compound tetracyclene. It is a broad spectrum bacteriostatic, meaning that the way in which it attacks a cell is to block the cell from reproducing. It is effective against a large variety of both gram positive and gram negative bacterias.



Draxxin is the brand name for the drug Tulathromycin. It is a macrolide, meaning it is also bacteriostatic. It is most effective against gram positive bacteria.



The biggest difference is that Draxxin is not able to penetrate both the lungs and the GI tract, so it is a great respiratory med. Oxytet. is a great respiratory and intestinal med.



It is not recommended use a bacteriostatic drug with a bacteriocidal drug, like Penicillin, that works by causing the cell to basically explode itself. So, a bacteriostatic drug basically blocks the process that the bacteriocidal needs in order to be effective. This is why I am always reminding people to check for meds that contrindicate, so that when you do treat, you aren't also unknowingly preventing treatment at the same time.



I am not a vet, nor am I a pharmicist. I found all of this information online in either the Merck Manual or by doing searches on the different drug names and simply compiling the research.
 
tetradure acccording to our vet is also easier on the digestive systm than Draxin probably goes along with what Robbie is saying. By the way Robbie, it was nice to finally meet visit with you in Toledo, what was your helpers name, I felt bad i forgot her name and was name meaning to be rude by not communicating with her when we passed in the isles.
 
Rick - it was great to meet you, too. I really enjoyed the trip, as did Maggie, our fawn manager. She is always busy with fawns in August, when the TDA convention happens, so this was a great chance for her to get out and see more about the industry.



As for the way these drugs impact the rest of the deer, it is about how they eliminate. The liver and kidneys are the most common means of elimination, so some drugs can be really hard on them. This is also why hydration is so very important in a sick deer. Without enough fluids moving about the body and helping to move eliminated chemicals around and out, you can end up with severe complications, even organ failure.
 

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