Whats everyone breeding with this fall ?

IndependenceRanch

Joined Apr 2009

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Edgar, WI

• Oct 27, 2011

• #81

It sure is amazing how fast they turn on a person isn't Gary and Jane. It has gotten to the point where we have to say sorry instead of congrats for raising a big buck.

 

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MarkR

Joined Jan 2010

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New Matamoras, OH

• Oct 27, 2011

• #82

Bruce,

You have a couple of very nice looking yearlings. Nice frame and width on them. Congrats!

 

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Redwater

Joined Apr 2009

82 Posts | 0+

• Oct 27, 2011

• #83

727 Allstar

Renagade

Crown Maker

 

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virgil

Joined Apr 2009

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Polk, PA located in west central pa

• Oct 27, 2011

• #84

I symply wanted to know why they decided to go this route. Like I said don't want to start any fights. Specialy with but kissers who are no longer in the business. I think Gary and Jane have some very nice animals probly some of the best in the industry. Myself I feel these kinda bucks if bred for are just asking for trouble. I mean come on they can not even hold up their heads and most have to be cut or they will die. As Lamar Borkholder stated in his artical in the totaly typ mag how many preserves are bying shooters with cut antlers.

Sorry Gary and Jane if I affended you did not mean to. I just think to many deer like this don't look good for the industry.

 

Wild Rivers Whitetails

Joined Apr 2009

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Northeast Wisconsin

• Oct 27, 2011

• #85

If you had the biggest deer ever I'm sure you would breed to it, no matter how it looked. Ballistic is actually very balanced and very wide - two things everyone wants. I'm sure not all of his offspring are going to look like him - but if they do that's great. We want to add points and mass to some of our lines and he is the guy to do it. In addtion, like I said, we have several awesome 2 year olds we are using this year in addition to Rex, So Big, Big Time and Blue River. We are breeding about 200 does, so will have numerous crosses and of course we are using Ballistic.

 

ToddM

Joined May 2009

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Fulton, Michigan

• Oct 27, 2011

• #86

I think I have my list complete, Id better, 10 days to breeding day



Fear Factor

X Factor

New Image

Gold Dust

Grizzly's Shadow

Kojack

Heartbreak

Redbull

Redline

Rolexby10

Full Time

 

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Awesome Antlers

Joined Apr 2009

259 Posts | 0+

IA / USA

• Oct 27, 2011

• #87

virgil said:

I symply wanted to know why they decided to go this route. Like I said don't want to start any fights. Specialy with but kissers who are no longer in the business. I think Gary and Jane have some very nice animals probly some of the best in the industry. Myself I feel these kinda bucks if bred for are just asking for trouble. I mean come on they can not even hold up their heads and most have to be cut or they will die. As Lamar Borkholder stated in his artical in the totaly typ mag how many preserves are bying shooters with cut antlers.

Sorry Gary and Jane if I affended you did not mean to. I just think to many deer like this don't look good for the industry.

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Virgil,

You just can't let it go can you. First off, if it’s me you refer to as the butt kisser that's no longer in business, well you are mistaken. I don't know Gary or Jane much better than I know you, and we have not done 1-cent of business together ever(not that I wouldn't). Oh, and I've been raising whitetails for well over 20yrs and right or wrong I still have plenty of them.



Like you, I don't want to start a fight on here. But it just kills me to see you criticizing someone else’s pride and joy on this forum. Apparently you have your idea of what you think is the perfect buck for the industry. That's great, I can respect that, but going after someone else's personal choice of breeder buck on a public forum like you are, in my opinion is just wrong.



I apologize to the other readers for getting off subject here...

 

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virgil

Joined Apr 2009

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Polk, PA located in west central pa

• Oct 27, 2011

• #88

Was not refering to you at all Barry and I was not criticizing them or their deer. I just wandered why they chose to breed with Ballistic after they said they did not breed with this type of deer. If you read the post about outdoorlife comeing down on Ballistic you would know what I meant.

 

Wild Rivers Whitetails

Joined Apr 2009

1,428 Posts | 0+

Northeast Wisconsin

• Oct 27, 2011

• #89

I didn't say we don't breed with this type of deer - we breed with ALL types of deer since we want variety. When we made this cross we never dreamed we end up with a deer this awesome but we did and we're tickled pink! No one ever knows what a particular breeding will bring them and that is the beauty of this business. We all hope to better the deer we have and we all hope to have a record setter but no one can say whether it will happen or not or what that deer will look like. You just keep making crosses that make sense and go with what has worked for you in the past. We have our breeding management plan just like everyone else and it seems to be working for us.



If you are running a hunting preserve you find out pretty quickly that not everyone wants a clean typical and not everyone wants a crazy nontypical - but there will be somebody that wants each of those deer and everything inbetween. So if you want to stay in business you breed for both. This industry hinges on the hunting market.

 

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virgil

Joined Apr 2009

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Polk, PA located in west central pa

• Oct 27, 2011

• #90

I thought you meant you did not breed for this kinda deer. Thats why I was wondering why would you breed with him then. Sory for my misunderstanding.

 

Whitetail Sanctuary

Joined May 2009

2,369 Posts | 0+

Chillicothe, Missouri

Discussion Starter
• Oct 29, 2011

• #91

Well it's over as far as the A/I ing goes. Finished up Oct. 28 @ 11:30 am all work was done by Dr. Rachel Wiess and her assistants Jason and Clay...... again did a first class job for us!



3 does Lap A/I'd to:



2 Climax split straw once

1 Cowboy full straw



6 does ******l A/I'd to:



1 Leffie full straw

5 Rawhide all full straws



And we turned 6 of our girls throught the day to have Rawhide live cover those girls and will turn 2 more out to him when the rest of our outside live covers arrive.



Now its just 10 more days and we will take 4 of our girls out to:





2 to XL Storm

1 to Fibercore

1 to Temptation



Then it's wish the winter away till the babies hit the ground in the spring............It's gonna be a LONG winter!!!!!!!!!! LOL



Best of Luck to everyone as thier day arrives!

 

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darren

Joined May 2009

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Show-Me Whitetails

• Oct 30, 2011

• #92

Frequent Flyer, Energizer, X-Factor, Texas Tea and Cornerstone. X- Factors mother and Purple 35 both got Frequent Flyer. I never met a whitetail that I didnt like, but when I sell shooters, they pay by the inch. I am live covering some does to Redbull (303 @ 2) and Redbull will buck up my AI does. Now that AI is over, it is time to crawl up a tree. Darren

 

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iadeer

Joined Apr 2009

145 Posts | 0+

• Nov 2, 2011

• #93

Good luck to all this breding season.



Here at Circle "H" Whitetails, Inc. I fee I have a short list:



Arty....323inches 256 inch 5x5 main frame (40)

Water Boy 474 inches 221 inch main frame (6)

Michigan Weapon to 9 my Borntrager does. (9)

Advantage.. typical 2 yr old son of Amazon and Arty's MOM.(6)

Beyond Control.. 256 inch yearling Maxbo over the best doe Mark has raised. (3)

 

ToddM

Joined May 2009

711 Posts | 0+

Fulton, Michigan

• Nov 3, 2011

• #94

Going BIG this year. Hope they take or I will cry.



Fear Factor - 451

New Image - 528

X Factor - 542

Gold Dust - 480?

Rolexby10 - 470

Grizzlys Shadow - 295@1

Redline - 400+

Hearbreak

Kojack

Noble

Triton

If I dont get something to turn out from these, I will be the next guy with a whole herd sale..........LOL

 

richie0033

Joined May 2009

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Tuscaloosa, Alabama

• Nov 3, 2011

• #95

Mine changed a little..sold more does that i wanted..using fear factor,maxin 2,king Kong,big heavy,venom,and BIG RIG,BIG RIG, and more BIG RIG!!!!

 

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size matters

Joined Apr 2009

110 Posts | 0+

Michigan

• Nov 3, 2011

• #96

just did AI yesterday

BIG RIG 2

RIGID 2

GD ROMEO 1

GD EXCELERATOR 1

 

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wild west

Joined Aug 2009

124 Posts | 0+

Rochester MN

• Nov 3, 2011

• #97

We will be AIing this year with:

Maxbo Encore

Satisfaction

Michigan Weapon

 

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Simonson

Joined Apr 2009

427 Posts | 0+

• Nov 3, 2011

• #98

I have the final draft now A Iing TOMORROW glad when its over!



Maxbo Arty (4)

Auggie (2)

Amos (2)

Walk's Magnum (1)

Prairie Blaze (2)

Gold Digger (2)



rest are live bred to the following

AMMUNITION (22)

SIMPLY AMAZING (20)

AMAZON (3)

Out of bounds (1)



A lot of A TEAM genetics and looking forward to seeing what comes out!

Goodluck everyone this breeding season! JIM SIMONSON



I saw Ammunition breed a yearling doe today, she is a Simply Amazing daughter out of a Magnus (tex) / legend/BJ/M-29(Walk's Magnum/Tami). The bottom side is Double Walk's Magnum and double Tami!



Pic is of Ammunition 361@3yrs

 

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dominantgenetics

Joined Aug 2010

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Wapella, IL US

• Nov 4, 2011

• #99

im breeding with big time very heavy this fall i think he has it all 7x7 main fraim,

great tine length for a yearling, and width, and goin to cross very well with all my power house doe's on my farm



a few with BUCKY



and with DANGER

 

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Gaylen C

Joined Apr 2009

310 Posts | 0+

Waverly, IA

• Nov 6, 2011

• #100

A lot of A TEAM genetics and looking forward to seeing what comes out!

Goodluck everyone this breeding season! JIM SIMONSON



I can tell you what will come out Jim. FAWNS! Good luck with your AI.