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I have been using shock effect for a couple of years and havn't lost one yet to EHD. But when all is said and done there really isn't any cure all from EHD. It is a virus and not if but when I do lose some to EHD I will understand that there is ways to help improve the health of your herd but nothing is totally effective towards preventing or curing this virus.
 
I cant wait till Larry compiles all the data from farms all over the country. He might just be the next multi millionaire........
 
All my deer are on Bulletproof. earlier this year EHD hit my farm and lost several animals. Started them all on Bulletproof and the results shocked me. a couple of does were stumbling and not looking good I just knew they would be the next to trow in the hole. Let them eat Bulletproof out of the bucket and the remining deer ALL SURVIVED and also fawned, everyone of the doe had healthy twins and are doing great. My hat is off to Larry, his Bulletproof is the real deal. I really think without it I would have lost more. Larry is a really nice guy and will bend over backwards for you to keep your deer healty. Contact him and get your deer on Bulletproof I have seen the amazing results first hand, here is contact number for him. Larry Sheffield 717-860-6647
 
La. Bone Collector said:
I cant wait till Larry compiles all the data from farms all over the country. He might just be the next multi millionaire........
larry him SELF has said not-a- about this ehd and his bulletproff stuff ! NUFF SAID
 
I think Larry has taken a low key approach. I think first hand experiences by others is the best form of "proof". It's not Larry saying x about his own product. It's a bunch of people currently using his product that are giving their own accounts of what they have seen. If you want to know more about the product, give Larry a call. I'm sure he'd be glad to talk to you about it and answer any questions you may have. Larry's approach is finely focused on the health of the deer.
 
Gehringer Deer Ranch said:
I think Larry has taken a low key approach. I think first hand experiences by others is the best form of "proof". It's not Larry saying x about his own product. It's a bunch of people currently using his product that are giving their own accounts of what they have seen. If you want to know more about the product, give Larry a call. I'm sure he'd be glad to talk to you about it and answer any questions you may have. Larry's approach is finely focused on the health of the deer.

thats fine. thanks , BUT cant get larry on the phone ? all i want is a lable ? whats in it it ??? I WILL NEVER FEED ANYTHING TO MY DEER THAT I DONT KNOW WHATS IN IT .
 
flyingshamrock said:
i have been using shock effect for a couple of years and havn't lost one yet to ehd. But when all is said and done there really isn't any cure all from ehd. It is a virus and not if but when i do lose some to ehd i will understand that there is ways to help improve the health of your herd but nothing is totally effective towards preventing or curing this virus.



yup, wait for steve and gregs respounds soon .
 
I would think a person would have had to HAVE a problem with their deer BEFORE they can say that something has made a difference with their deer. Im not knocking any product,Not larry's,Not Shock,Not A&E. I would think any probotic or herb or anything else that is good for deer will help keep them healthy and that will help them fight off any problems that may come up.
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
I would think a person would have had to HAVE a problem with their deer BEFORE they can say that something has made a difference with their deer. Im not knocking any product,Not larry's,Not Shock,Not A&E. I would think any probotic or herb or anything else that is good for deer will help keep them healthy and that will help them fight off any problems that may come up.



I'm not sure that anyone would necessarily have to have had a "problem"...



The overall weight our deer carry has increased since using the product.



We have also had a few issues that we feel we've seen a quicker recovery from.



We had a buck that broke his leg on December 8th. Many people told us that his rack would be impacted and probably not that great on one side. This buck had a very speedy recovery. In addition his antlers were his largest to date. Attached is a picture of that buck...Juneau.



Just my experience...
 

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Gehringer Deer Ranch said:
I'm not sure that anyone would necessarily have to have had a "problem"...



The overall weight our deer carry has increased since using the product.



We have also had a few issues that we feel we've seen a quicker recovery from.



We had a buck that broke his leg on December 8th. Many people told us that his rack would be impacted and probably not that great on one side. This buck had a very speedy recovery. In addition his antlers were his largest to date. Attached is a picture of that buck...Juneau.



Just my experience...



If your deer dont have a problem how do you know a product is fixing a problem. If something is good for an animal then thats great. If you are feeding your deer and they are up to weight before you start on a product, How do you know that product is doing anything at all. I guess something would have to be wrong(Kinda like a deer with coccida) and then start on a product(Like Corrid) then you would know if something is working. If its over all just good for the deer then you are just helping a natural order. That cant be a bad thing no matter the product!!
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
If your deer dont have a problem how do you know a product is fixing a problem. If something is good for an animal then then thats great. If you are feeding your deer and they are up to weight before you start on a product, How do you know that product is doing anything at all. I guess something would have to be wrong(Kinda like a deer with coccida) and then start on a product(Like Corrid) then you would know if something is working. If its over all just good for the deer then you are just helping a natural order. That cant be a bad thing no matter the product!!



I thought you were using Bulletproof as well. Is that not the case anymore?



If yes, what's your experience been?



I'm sure glad we all live in this great country and are allowed to have different opinions and views. ;)
 
mike,

I don't agree with what your saying.....Todd is describing his experience with a product and how it has impacted his herd.......how can you say it is not working for him? I take it that from what I read he is please that his deer seem healthier and his buck recovered from antler trauma quicker than normal had it not been on the product he is complimenting....Why the resistance?
 
how can you say it is not working for him?



Dennis, Please do tell where you even came up with this statement in any of my post. Like i wrote, I am not knocking larrys or any other product. I said how do you know a product is working on something that was not broke to begin with.

I used larrys poduct because i spoke with larry and he told me all the benifits of the ingredients that were in his product. If someone has skinny deer and then changes the deers diet and also adds a product how do you know it was not the change in diet that put weight on the deer and not the product? If someone had a broken antler before a product was used and it took a month to heal and then started on a product and had another break an antler then started on something and the antler was better in a week then i would say something was different. I use a product made by epic that is also good for the rumen and help the deer digest and breakdown their food. Was there anything wrong with my deer before i started using it? No.. I researched, Talk to people and tried it. Do i know if it helps??? Not really because there was nothing wrong with them to begin with!!! Like i said if something is good for a deer and YOU think it helps keep them at their best, Then use it. But to me with any product you have to have something wrong before you REALLY know if something fixed it. No more or no less. If someone thinks something helps....Then use it!!!
 
four seasons whitetails said:
how can you say it is not working for him?



Dennis, please do tell where you even came up with this statement in any of my post. Like i wrote, i am not knocking larrys or any other product. I said how do you know a product is working on something that was not broke to begin with.

I used larrys poduct because i spoke with larry and he told me all the benifits of the ingredients that were in his product. If someone has skinny deer and then changes the deers diet and also adds a product how do you know it was not the change in diet that put weight on the deer and not the product? If someone had a broken antler before a product was used and it took a month to heal and then started on a product and had another break an antler then started on something and the antler was better in a week then i would say something was different. I use a product made by epic that is also good for the rumen and help the deer digest and breakdown their food. Was there anything wrong with my deer before i started using it? No.. I researched, talk to people and tried it. Do i know if it helps??? Not really because there was nothing wrong with them to begin with!!! Like i said if something is good for a deer and you think it helps keep them at their best, then use it. But to me with any product you have to have something wrong before you really know if something fixed it. No more or no less. If someone thinks something helps....then use it!!!



nice. Very well said , no sides taken , good job
 

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