Four Seasons Whitetails, I would agree with you in both points, and Djd Whitetails, there is a measure of propriety in your statement also. Perhaps I can provide a bit of perspective. Speaking only for myself, first, I do not raise whitetail, I work in the ancillary support industry(Independent Consultant)...I'm always asked whether or not I raise deer; the question doesn't offend, as it would give someone a baseline qualifier...a qualifier among many, possibly a primary for some, for others, not. This forum, along with the total livestock industry(lol..yes, I consider deer to be livestock, even if some States don't) contains all types of personalities, along with their own personal bias regarding standards and practices. I've gleaned mountains of useful info here, carried from farm and ranch, to other farms and ranches...Standards and practices vary farm to farm, hence, what works on one place would have little to no demonstrated result on another. This industry, still in it's relative infancy, is moving forward, haltingly at times, pouncing on every shred of research and/or viable info it can gather...Making it all the more interesting is the fact that this industry is one of the few that does business with itself, making the sharing and flow of information even more important. I genuinely appreciate the opportunity to participate. Hopefully, the economic impact and clout of the industry will spur further credible research, and we can discard "throwing things(money) against the wall and see what sticks"....time to go, have livestock to take care of ;-)