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june 15th guess 207 7/8"
Thanks to everyone who has chose to participate in the Energizer Challenge. Of course I'm trying to market our newest addition to the farm lineup while also trying to be original and fun
. Below is a master list of all guesses up to this point for everyone to reference to avoid using exact numbers already picked. This is about to get interesting because guessing strategy will now become a factor. Where to strategically place your guesses in order to cover the most ground while considering the next rounds to your advantage. I'm not sure at this point what is more important... the live breeding/straw of semen or the good old bragging rights but just to make it even more interesting, I've decided to add a new element to our guessing game that may add even more strategy to how you place your guesses. There will be a new reward added to the game for the breeder that has the closest average. OK, so I'm saying we take 4 of your 5 guesses and average them out for one score that is closest to Energizers official score this fall. You pick 1 score to throughout on September 1st (yes this is an additional round) that you feel was your weakest guess. Anyone who has not put in a June 15th guess will not have a through away guess and must use the 4 remaining rounds as there 4 guess average. This average will be called the Swarovski addition! Yep, a bran spanking new pair of Swarovski Binoculars for your deer viewing pleasure! So the grand prize is still the same, best single guess wins the live breeding/straw of semen on the Walk farm and now the best 4 guess average wins the Swarovski's. If you have not placed a guess for any reason it's time to get in there and join the fun. For anyone that has not already guessed in our game and also misses the July 1st next round or if you miss a few rounds and do not have at least 4 guess entries you will not be eligible for the additional Swarovski bonus because you will not have 4 guesses to average. Call a deer friend and let them know, the Energizer Challenge is ON! Thanks again all. Have fun, good luck. Russ Walk Jr. ps Energizer owners are in for Swarovski challenge. Go get'em boys.
252 5/8
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. Below is a master list of all guesses up to this point for everyone to reference to avoid using exact numbers already picked. This is about to get interesting because guessing strategy will now become a factor. Where to strategically place your guesses in order to cover the most ground while considering the next rounds to your advantage. I'm not sure at this point what is more important... the live breeding/straw of semen or the good old bragging rights but just to make it even more interesting, I've decided to add a new element to our guessing game that may add even more strategy to how you place your guesses. There will be a new reward added to the game for the breeder that has the closest average. OK, so I'm saying we take 4 of your 5 guesses and average them out for one score that is closest to Energizers official score this fall. You pick 1 score to throughout on September 1st (yes this is an additional round) that you feel was your weakest guess. Anyone who has not put in a June 15th guess will not have a through away guess and must use the 4 remaining rounds as there 4 guess average. This average will be called the Swarovski addition! Yep, a bran spanking new pair of Swarovski Binoculars for your deer viewing pleasure! So the grand prize is still the same, best single guess wins the live breeding/straw of semen on the Walk farm and now the best 4 guess average wins the Swarovski's. If you have not placed a guess for any reason it's time to get in there and join the fun. For anyone that has not already guessed in our game and also misses the July 1st next round or if you miss a few rounds and do not have at least 4 guess entries you will not be eligible for the additional Swarovski bonus because you will not have 4 guesses to average. Call a deer friend and let them know, the Energizer Challenge is ON! Thanks again all. Have fun, good luck. Russ Walk Jr. ps Energizer owners are in for Swarovski challenge. Go get'em boys.252 5/8
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Heck I aint telling anybody about this contest! That is just going to kill my odds of winning. lol
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220" June 17
Energizer is looking awesome!!
Energizer is looking awesome!!
The new Energizer updated video will be loaded soon, but because it is not on the sight yet I'm going to bend the original rules a little here for Don W, Spiderman, 160goldstar and Mi bucks. Your guess will be added to the June 15th round. When the new video is loaded in a couple days in fairness to all who are participating we will have to pass your guess on to the next round on July 1st. The contest rules will be tighter in the next rounds. Although we will be loading new videos weekly, I recommend waiting until the newest video is released probably the last day of June for next rounds guessing. Remember the deadlines for your guesses are June 15th, July 1st, July 15th, Aug 1st, Aug 15th and for Swarovski reward throw away round will be Sep 1st. For new guys please go back and read my earlier posts to get up to speed with contest deadlines, rules and rewards. I will go back and edit those posts to make them stand out more like this one with pink. Its all about the fun. Thanks, Russ Walk Jr
. When the new video is loaded in a couple days in fairness to all who are participating we will have to pass your guess on to the next round on July 1st. The contest rules will be tighter in the next rounds. Although we will be loading new videos weekly, I recommend waiting until the newest video is released probably the last day of June for next rounds guessing. Remember the deadlines for your guesses are June 15th, July 1st, July 15th, Aug 1st, Aug 15th and for Swarovski reward throw away round will be Sep 1st. For new guys please go back and read my earlier posts to get up to speed with contest deadlines, rules and rewards. I will go back and edit those posts to make them stand out more like this one with pink. Its all about the fun. Thanks, Russ Walk Jr
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I was going to vote yesterday, but the rules said I was too late. So, I was waiting for new video and planning to post a guess for the July 1 deadline.
Changing the rules in the middle of the game is not being fair to everyone. You have just lowered the odds of the people that met the June 15 deadline and increased the odds for the people that were late. I think you should rethink your offer to retro-activate those LATE guesses. Thats why there were groundrules made at the beginning.
I know this is being done for fun, but personally I have already lost some respect for the game. If your going to change rules in the middle, then who's to say you won't be changing rules at the end too. What's to say that late entries made at the end of the contest would or would not be allowed? What if one of those LATE entries is the winner? Might be a lot of people feeling cheated.
The last thing I want to do is be disrespectful to anyone,especially the WALKS. I do appologize to the all of them. I am actually trying to be helpful. But in my opinion, everyone that has played by the games "original rules" has been disrespected by allowing late entries to be included. By rights ANY entries AFTER 12 midnight June 15 should be for the July 1 deadline.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it !!
Changing the rules in the middle of the game is not being fair to everyone. You have just lowered the odds of the people that met the June 15 deadline and increased the odds for the people that were late. I think you should rethink your offer to retro-activate those LATE guesses. Thats why there were groundrules made at the beginning.
I know this is being done for fun, but personally I have already lost some respect for the game. If your going to change rules in the middle, then who's to say you won't be changing rules at the end too. What's to say that late entries made at the end of the contest would or would not be allowed? What if one of those LATE entries is the winner? Might be a lot of people feeling cheated.
The last thing I want to do is be disrespectful to anyone,especially the WALKS. I do appologize to the all of them. I am actually trying to be helpful. But in my opinion, everyone that has played by the games "original rules" has been disrespected by allowing late entries to be included. By rights ANY entries AFTER 12 midnight June 15 should be for the July 1 deadline.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it !!
wvdeerman,
I do see your point here and it is valid. I did say that contest rules would be tighter as the next round comes. These guys didn't see any more info than anyone else when they made a guess and didn't have an advantage and that is why I let them in here. Just some start up bumps. I apologize for your feelings on how this is coming together and hope that you will have patiences with me on this matter. For your confidence in this contest I promise this will not happen in the next rounds to come and I hope you can enjoy our generosity when nobody else is offering rewards at this time. My goal is for you to have something to look forward to as this deer grows out and to enjoy this business we all love.
On a better note here is a list of all Energizer videos available. The last video is the new upload. There will be more videos before the July 1st guessing round so be patient with your guesses. It appears that all most all realistic guesses will eventually be cover by the end of this contest by every 1/8 inch, so strategically think about where your guesses fits the best. Thanks Russ Jr
4-30-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPv8pUocFk&feature=channel_page
5-21-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvjcfigSnbw&feature=channel_page
5-24-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAjDTLTvZD8&feature=channel_page
5-31-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVVPTBPmtmg&feature=channel_page
6-3-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8083m6iig0&feature=channel_page
6-7-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQl20MIM9NE&feature=channel_page
6-11-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_wjqQxsyo&feature=channel_page
6-14-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC6kz8BBJl4&feature=channel_page
6-18-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPSYzkvpis&feature=channel
I do see your point here and it is valid. I did say that contest rules would be tighter as the next round comes. These guys didn't see any more info than anyone else when they made a guess and didn't have an advantage and that is why I let them in here. Just some start up bumps. I apologize for your feelings on how this is coming together and hope that you will have patiences with me on this matter. For your confidence in this contest I promise this will not happen in the next rounds to come and I hope you can enjoy our generosity when nobody else is offering rewards at this time. My goal is for you to have something to look forward to as this deer grows out and to enjoy this business we all love.
On a better note here is a list of all Energizer videos available. The last video is the new upload. There will be more videos before the July 1st guessing round so be patient with your guesses. It appears that all most all realistic guesses will eventually be cover by the end of this contest by every 1/8 inch, so strategically think about where your guesses fits the best. Thanks Russ Jr
4-30-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPv8pUocFk&feature=channel_page
5-21-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvjcfigSnbw&feature=channel_page
5-24-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAjDTLTvZD8&feature=channel_page
5-31-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVVPTBPmtmg&feature=channel_page
6-3-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8083m6iig0&feature=channel_page
6-7-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQl20MIM9NE&feature=channel_page
6-11-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_wjqQxsyo&feature=channel_page
6-14-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC6kz8BBJl4&feature=channel_page
6-18-09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPSYzkvpis&feature=channel
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Hey,....this is a MIGHTY nice thing for Russ to be offering,...and it's just for some good ol' redneck fun. If you win,...well that's just a bonus.
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Pure Turkey said:
Couldn't have said it better myself!!! It's amazing how critical we can be of each other sometimes.
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I understand your intent and the fact of giving someone the benefit of the doubt. I fully respect that and take that into consideration. Like I said before, the last thing I am trying to do is be disrespectful. To me with so many things in our industry being questioned, why would we want to create more.
To me, whether they had more info or not, before bidding, is not the issue here. Who's to say they didn't have other information from someone else or even personally visit the farm. The bottom line is, their bid was late. I held off on bidding because I was late. I played fair and I was the one cheated. Seeing more video or not is clearly not the issue. They have been allowed an extra guess into the contest. By being late they should have forfeited the guess due by June 15. Especially since they were REALLY LATE. Not by just a few minutes late, but 2-3 DAYS late !!
This has now allowed all the LATE voters, to now have 5 guesses instead of only rightfully deserving 4 guesses. Like I said before, everyone that played by the rules correctly has now had their odds of winning shortened and the late voters have been rewarded for being late.
As far as "start up bumps", I disagree. This is a topic that was clearly covered in the rules. Deadlines were clearly stated in the beginning. Not a new issue that was not covered in the rules.
I guess if nobody else has a problem with this issue and willing to speak their mind, then why should I put my neck on the line?. Personally I feel the integrity of the game has been compromised. I would actually like to hear what the other three partners in this buck have to say about this issue. I have a funny feeling this is going to be a problem when the contest comes to an end. Not neccessarily between the partners but just in general.
Perhaps I am the one that is wrong since I seem to be the only one to speak up about it. I guess I will join John Swank as being the rebel in our industry and speaking my mind. No disrespect John. I admire that in a person, and I have great respect for you.
Until someone else comes forward and complains, then I will keep my mouth shut. I appologize for being a disturbance. I just wanted to speak my opinion.
To me, whether they had more info or not, before bidding, is not the issue here. Who's to say they didn't have other information from someone else or even personally visit the farm. The bottom line is, their bid was late. I held off on bidding because I was late. I played fair and I was the one cheated. Seeing more video or not is clearly not the issue. They have been allowed an extra guess into the contest. By being late they should have forfeited the guess due by June 15. Especially since they were REALLY LATE. Not by just a few minutes late, but 2-3 DAYS late !!
This has now allowed all the LATE voters, to now have 5 guesses instead of only rightfully deserving 4 guesses. Like I said before, everyone that played by the rules correctly has now had their odds of winning shortened and the late voters have been rewarded for being late.
As far as "start up bumps", I disagree. This is a topic that was clearly covered in the rules. Deadlines were clearly stated in the beginning. Not a new issue that was not covered in the rules.
I guess if nobody else has a problem with this issue and willing to speak their mind, then why should I put my neck on the line?. Personally I feel the integrity of the game has been compromised. I would actually like to hear what the other three partners in this buck have to say about this issue. I have a funny feeling this is going to be a problem when the contest comes to an end. Not neccessarily between the partners but just in general.
Perhaps I am the one that is wrong since I seem to be the only one to speak up about it. I guess I will join John Swank as being the rebel in our industry and speaking my mind. No disrespect John. I admire that in a person, and I have great respect for you.
Until someone else comes forward and complains, then I will keep my mouth shut. I appologize for being a disturbance. I just wanted to speak my opinion.
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O.K. Russ,....I'm going with 183 2/8
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Hello In response to WVdeermans post, i would like to say that the decisions made concerning this issue were made by the owner group. Therefore i completly support the position that Russ took in his previous post. We intended from the start to create a fun and fair contest to include you all in the excitment of watching this great young deer grow his first rack. As Pure Turkey said, this is just for fun and winning is just a bonus. So have fun with it.
Best Regards,
Todd Rawlake
Best Regards,
Todd Rawlake
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My July 1 guess is 234...
Just so no one gets it
Just so no one gets it
I hope everyone can have some fun here,that is the goal. I think this started with us having a little fun between the owners and in true Walk fashion,JR came up with the contest idea.Iknow were having fun with it. Iam sure JR is doing everything he can to make everybody happy--hard to do with so many people guessing.