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I my self talked with all my neighbors explained my investment and my plan of being a farmer(deer farmer ) I made it very clear and polite what I was to do and that iwas to raise deer. And to protect my investment I have a shed were I keep dogs till the owners come get them. Funny thing ......none went home. Some didn't want to come up to the SHED...... Ruger snacks!!!!! Just my way. Charlie....as in 270 ruger!!!!
 
we had dogs caught on camera and still fighting with the home owners insurance ( lost 5 bucks off of that one). I dont think the dogs or any animal will ever make it home if they come near the pens again . we have 2 great permease dogs and a 7 mag for the sly animals that come around
 
Back about little over one year age my wife call n said there were 3 dogs around n in my deer pen with 6 dead deer n my Lexus son w/a broken leg n no dogs to hang I was sure they would be back n they were 6 months later this time I was home my son n I shot both dogs one in the pen n one out a pit bull which grould at my son for the last time n a beagle in the pen I shot them n yes i call my conservation agent n the sherrif to get a report the home owner of thedogs are responsible for any damage n u have the right to protect ur property but u need a report
 
I'd report everything. Ive read alot of these dogs killed my livestock threads. WHen/if i build my pens, Ill be putting in some serious predator/dog control.
 
Techniqually wouldnt dogs in your pens harming deer fall under the Castle Act, the right to protect your property from damage?
 
I think Travis from Freedom Whitetails is going thru this same thing right now. Lost several deer, maybe he can give some advice on what path to take or not. Eldon
 
We had a dog issue a couple years ago. We tried to be neighborly as the dogs didn't get in the pen and didn't cause any damage. We returned the dogs and explained it can't keep happening. It kept happening. Finally, we caught the dogs and tied them up, then called the dog warden. He returned them home and handed out some fines (over a grand). THEN it got ugly, to the point of the dog owner threatening the life of the dog warden in front of a state trooper. Oddly enough, those folks don't live there anymore. :D

If there is enough evidence such that you can collect damages (that is not as easy as it sounds), then involve the law. If not, SSS. I don't want to shoot Fido because he's probably a good dog and his owner is actually the *****, but the dog warden filled us in on where the law lies on this issue, and we won't have another situation like last time. As was stated, don't let them run home wounded, that will only cause more problems.
 
We had three pit bulls dig under the fence on our pens. They killed our best doe.

My wife killed all three of them. We called the sheriff just to document the incident, no collars or id tags.

We know who the dogs belong to just can't prove it.

Sheriff told me there is no law against people letting there dogs run loose in the county, but there is also no law against me shooting them either.

I had to shoot another one of their pits two days ago.

My policy is all dogs shot on sight.
 
Sorry Jamie, I know just how you feel, sickened right to the core.



I think you've received some good advice that I would just like to reitterate.

If there is no immediate and/or apparent damage, you still might want to make a report out in case there ends up being damage. I don't know how much of your buck's skull came out with the antler, but I know an alarmingly amount can come out with no negative future affect on his antlers. Was it like a huge ''root system'' so to speak that was attached to the antler??



If the dog that didn't get away has a collar and tags to positively link him to the owner, then there is no doubt you can prove that dog is responsible for any damages, and the owners are responsible for the dogs, and their home owners insurance covers the dogs.



Concerning the ones that got away, in my county, the dog catcher and the judge wants pictures of the dogs, otherwise it's hard to prove.

Note to all: Pictures, pictures, pictures, documentation, documentation, documentation...that's what we need to proof what needs to be proven in these situations to assuredly receive the compensation we got coming. I know we don't always pack a camera around the deer pen, but it wouldn't be a bad idea. If you know your're heading out the door to erradicate such a situation as dogs, grab the gun, AND the camera!



I dealt with the insurance companiy on an open and shut case, complete with the State Police inside the deer pen taking pictures of dog tracks, dead deer, injured deer, blood on the fence, huge dents in the fence where the deer had hit, eye witnesses to the dogs chasing the deer, caught the dogs at the pen, kept them until the dog catcher got there, the owners got wrote a ticket for allowing their dogs to run at large...AND still I had to fight with the insurance agent WAY more than what I should have!

So like I said...pictures and documentation as much as you can get!

Many have suggested the 3 SSS's. I could not agree more, especially providing there is no damage, ie not necessary to contact owner. Cause we all know that dogs do not have to enter the pen to cause damage and death.

If there is damage then you could do the SSC...See em, Shoot em, Call the owner.

I personally would never shoot a dog unless I had no choice.



Electric fence is the best preventative against dogs.

Another suggestion that isn't as involved as an electric fence is staple barbed wire at ground level all around your pens, providing your pens have the fence stapled on the inside of the poles. I was told this would prevent an animal from digging in, I don't know it it's true, only that in 16 years I never had dogs or coyotes dig into my pens. This of course would only(supposedly) prevent them from digging in, not keep them away from the pen like the electric fence would.



Many of us have dog stories...sorry to hear of yours Jamie.

Hope the best for you and your buck, and your ''case'', should it come to that!
 
Attention Illinois Farmers -

Unless they have changed the law, you do not have the right to shoot a dog harassing your deer.

The State inspector, Dan Nelson(some of you may know him), informed me and backed it up with documentation that it was not in the law. You have the right to shoot a dog harassing poultry and various other types of livestock, but not deer.

So, that doesn't negate the fact that the dog and owner would be responsible for any damage incurred to your deer, it just means they could turn around and sue you for the loss of their dog.

I made this post to inform you Illinois guys for 2 reasons...

1) To do what you can to get the law changed if it has not already

2) Not that it would matter necessarily or make the difference on whether you would or should shoot the dog or not, but rather just so you know the law
 
If it MY property and I paid for it with MY MONEY...............YEP........JUST checked.........It's MINE!!!....Someone or Something HARESSES it OR try's to KILL IT or STEAL it and I catch em..................YEP.........WINNER WINNER.........CHICKEN DINNER.............YOU or IT is..................GONNA GET SHOTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!:mad:
 
yes Wayne in the state of Mo. u have the right to protect ur property shoot find owner later I alway get a police report right r wrong I cover my butt shoot the dog or not I have the right to protect
 
Jamie,


 


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yes those dogs once they taste blood they are no differant than a dam wolf or coyote SSS or hot dogs soaked in antifreeze lay them at your fenceline where  deer cant get to them dogs can i also like snares but i never call anyone WE DON,T DIAL 911 they always come back shot one once had a whole deer ham in its mouth running ( i love those running shots )
 
SSS ..even if they can't get in, them just running around will F*** up your deer. I bought  cheap rolls of 4' fence and cut it in half to make rolls of 2' fence... got a few thousand hog rings and attached it to the bottom of the fence for skirting..has worked very well so far. Knock on wood
 

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