Brett am I supposed to say only things that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. These are just my opinions. chillout.
Feeding Wild Deer
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Dear John,
Saw some pics you have in your profile.....could not help but notice you are bringing a deer out on a quad......that's not hunting.....you are using a quad......you need to do it the right way....drag it out!!
Saw some pics you have in your profile.....could not help but notice you are bringing a deer out on a quad......that's not hunting.....you are using a quad......you need to do it the right way....drag it out!!
Dear John, since we're all having fun here, and I see horses in your icon...is it really riding a horse if you use a saddle, reigns and a bit and you use a stirrup to mount? Whereby, is riding a wild bronc inside a rodeo arena not really riding a wild bronc because it is confined by fence? Therefore, is it not bronc riding because the rodeo cowboys are doing it to get the highest score possible and the bucking stock is usually bred to perform by selected breed stock and handling practices? 'not pinning you down for an answer, just asking your thoughts(and having fun).
13 threads back I told you morons it was just my opinion. Why do you keep hounding me about this. You can stop now. We get it you want us all to realize what idiots you are.
Dearjohn. It's a blast corresponding with you. It really is. I guess we all frame our conversations with words that get the most attention. Good looking horses in the icon.
Ok...I've read all the posts here and nobody has got it right yet! Everybody listen up, cause this is what a ''hunt'' is suppose to be like:
You move along very very slowly and cautiously, almost creep so to speak...and when you see your quarry, you first look carefully behind you...then stop.
First thing you do after you stop is put your cigarette down, then very carefully put your beer down where it won't spill, then quickly yet methodically roll the window down...take aim and FIRE!
Ok, seriously, there is an absolute menagerie of different ways to hunt, and I believe that as long as they are within the confines of the law, they should carry a certain measure of regard and respect from everybody.
Can I remind us here that for the vast vast majority, hunting is suppose to be fun. It's a way of enjoying the outdoors and being entertained in the outdoors. If someone is skilled enough to shoot an animal with a rifle from 500 yards away and have fun doing it, good for them. If someone else has the skill to overcome the ''heebie jeebies'' of a close encounter with an animal and shoot it at 20 yards with a longbow, good for them...OR of any legal hunting method somewhere in between these 2, good for them.
If either one of these hunters are hunting over bait where it's legal, be it from the ground, a tree, ground blind, a tower or a pit, good for them. And now that I'm on the subject of bait...is there really much difference between hunting over a pile of corn, than a 1/4 acre food plot, than a 50 acre bean/corn field, than a place in the woods where the acorns are falling, than over a water hole, etc???
Brett brought out a good point with his reference to a ''stick or a stone'' as a weapon. We could even 'back' this up a bit and say unless we run our animals down and catch them with our bare hands it couldn't be considered hunting.
Dennis also brought out a good point with his reference to ''hunting for survival''. I will tell you one thing for sure and for certain, if I'm killing game for survival, whether I'm hunting over bait using sticks, stones, bare hands, bow, gun, or DYNAMITE...you can believe that whoever I'm feeding will call me a ''hunter''!!!
Definition of hunt, hunter, and hunting according to Webster's:
hunt - ''to go out to kill or catch game for food or sport''
hunter - ''a person who hunts''
hunting - ''the act of a person or animal who hunts''
Provided that the method of hunting is legal, I think we need to be careful using the label ''that's not hunting''.
dearjohn - I respect your opinion although I don't agree with it in it's exactness. I do admire though your strong conviction in what you believe...it's people that are ''wishy-washy'' that are a real struggle for me.
''Good hunting'', or a ''good hunter'' in my opinion, regardless of the hunting method/weapon, is when he/she ONLY and ALWAYS takes good ethical shots...shots that ensure a quick and clean kill of the animal...those that respect the animal enough to always put them first and to NEVER do otherwise, no matter how big or how small!
''Good Hunting'' everybody!!!
You move along very very slowly and cautiously, almost creep so to speak...and when you see your quarry, you first look carefully behind you...then stop.
First thing you do after you stop is put your cigarette down, then very carefully put your beer down where it won't spill, then quickly yet methodically roll the window down...take aim and FIRE!
Ok, seriously, there is an absolute menagerie of different ways to hunt, and I believe that as long as they are within the confines of the law, they should carry a certain measure of regard and respect from everybody.
Can I remind us here that for the vast vast majority, hunting is suppose to be fun. It's a way of enjoying the outdoors and being entertained in the outdoors. If someone is skilled enough to shoot an animal with a rifle from 500 yards away and have fun doing it, good for them. If someone else has the skill to overcome the ''heebie jeebies'' of a close encounter with an animal and shoot it at 20 yards with a longbow, good for them...OR of any legal hunting method somewhere in between these 2, good for them.
If either one of these hunters are hunting over bait where it's legal, be it from the ground, a tree, ground blind, a tower or a pit, good for them. And now that I'm on the subject of bait...is there really much difference between hunting over a pile of corn, than a 1/4 acre food plot, than a 50 acre bean/corn field, than a place in the woods where the acorns are falling, than over a water hole, etc???
Brett brought out a good point with his reference to a ''stick or a stone'' as a weapon. We could even 'back' this up a bit and say unless we run our animals down and catch them with our bare hands it couldn't be considered hunting.
Dennis also brought out a good point with his reference to ''hunting for survival''. I will tell you one thing for sure and for certain, if I'm killing game for survival, whether I'm hunting over bait using sticks, stones, bare hands, bow, gun, or DYNAMITE...you can believe that whoever I'm feeding will call me a ''hunter''!!!
Definition of hunt, hunter, and hunting according to Webster's:
hunt - ''to go out to kill or catch game for food or sport''
hunter - ''a person who hunts''
hunting - ''the act of a person or animal who hunts''
Provided that the method of hunting is legal, I think we need to be careful using the label ''that's not hunting''.
dearjohn - I respect your opinion although I don't agree with it in it's exactness. I do admire though your strong conviction in what you believe...it's people that are ''wishy-washy'' that are a real struggle for me.
''Good hunting'', or a ''good hunter'' in my opinion, regardless of the hunting method/weapon, is when he/she ONLY and ALWAYS takes good ethical shots...shots that ensure a quick and clean kill of the animal...those that respect the animal enough to always put them first and to NEVER do otherwise, no matter how big or how small!
''Good Hunting'' everybody!!!
Hey Everybody,
I was just reading all the posts in this thread, and I think we all have somthing wrong....
We are aruguing with each other when we should be arguing with the Anti- hunter. We can spend all day aruguing about baiting... In MN it is worse to get caught baiting than to get a DUI. We all need to unite against the Anti-hunter not against each other. The Anti-hunter is very united and they want to shut down all hunting preserves. Us hunters are not united at all (prevous posts prove my case). If we are not careful they (the anti-hunter) will shut hunting down. And not just preserve hunts, all hunting in the wild as well. I have hunted in and out of the fence. And both are very exciting. I have hunted over feed (in the fence) and I have sat in the cold for 12 hours with a muzzleloader and not seen a single deer. Both hunts were fun and enjoyable. I for one will not condem another hunter for his style. But I will stand against the Anti-hunter.
I do not want to cause anymore contraversy. Just stating my opinon.
I was just reading all the posts in this thread, and I think we all have somthing wrong....
We are aruguing with each other when we should be arguing with the Anti- hunter. We can spend all day aruguing about baiting... In MN it is worse to get caught baiting than to get a DUI. We all need to unite against the Anti-hunter not against each other. The Anti-hunter is very united and they want to shut down all hunting preserves. Us hunters are not united at all (prevous posts prove my case). If we are not careful they (the anti-hunter) will shut hunting down. And not just preserve hunts, all hunting in the wild as well. I have hunted in and out of the fence. And both are very exciting. I have hunted over feed (in the fence) and I have sat in the cold for 12 hours with a muzzleloader and not seen a single deer. Both hunts were fun and enjoyable. I for one will not condem another hunter for his style. But I will stand against the Anti-hunter.
I do not want to cause anymore contraversy. Just stating my opinon.
Dillan your opinion is right on..........I am guilty as charged! Let's change our focus on what is important...our right to hunt!! Amen Dillan thanks for your post!!
I was just stating my opinion also, but a few idiots wanted to drag it out more and more.The same ones that say every week where everyone has gone. ma by some people should look in the mirror .
dearjohn said:
I think this is pretty much the whole problem with the few people causing problems on this whole forum, not just this thread. People have the right to their opinion. It doesnt matter what they think about what hunting is or if they like Obama or if the world is flat. If thats there opininion RESPECT IT. You dont have to like it or agree with it, but you should respect it.
I love this forum, and I think that most of you are good people. But I am really tired of the arguing and you trying to prove to everyone and god that the way you think is the only way to think. When I say you, I mean you. You know who you are. If you dont, just look back at your posts and ask youself if they were constuctive or destructive.
TO RECIEVE RESPECT YOU FIRST MUST BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS.
ER Whitetails said:
there are lots of things people do that I am sure you do not respect,them or their acts. dare me to name a few.