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X-Factor was scored today. We will stop taking your guess to win a free straw of semen tonight, Wednesday August 10th at 12 pm midnight. Thanks to all who participated & good luck. We will post his score after we have the official signed score sheet.

FYI he did score substantially higher than his last years score which was 509 6/8
 
I guess im a bit confused????? How do you get an official score when he was in velvet????? Not trying to start anything but just trying to understand how its even possible to come up with any such score! Please explain this process? Anyone
 
CJ: Sorry I was a little slow posting a reply to your question. Took a few days of R & R without my lap top. When we used the term official we ment that we had an official SCI scorer to score X-Factor's horns, they were not done by anyone at the farm.

Now is that score official ?????? To each his own because you can't satisfy everybody. We found that out last year. For example, Russ had the horns scored last year by official SCI scorers in hard horn. The deer was knocked down and his width and mass measurements were taken before the horns were cut off. They then scored the rest of the rack and reached a score of 509 6/8. He felt most people would like to know the score of X-Factor as soon as possible plus we felt he would be the first deer to be scored & pass the 500 inch mark. Makes sense to most of us.

When spring came of this year, NADEFA was having horns scored. We did not take X-Factor's real horns to the show, we only took replicas that were mounted. We didn't see a need to second guess a score that was done six months earlier by a capable group of scorers. Then those on the other side of the fence, weren't satisfied, why wasn't he scored at NADEFA ??? This is where the old saying comes in "You can't win for losing."

So this year he was scored in velvet & CJ I didn't mean to get off on a tangent with your question. SCI does have a formula for scoring deer in velvet. I personally do not know how it is done but I read in a post that Randy Czapla of Rough Country Whitetails said the SCI handbook has the directions for velvet scoring. With that being said he was scored in velvet & now we are also going to have the velvet stripped from the horns and take the hard horns to NADEFA in the spring of 2012 and have them scored. THEN maybe everybody on both sides of the fence will be happy & that goes back to another old saying "It is time to put up or shut up." And Russ is more than willing to "put up" but I can't speak for those on the other side of the fence.

Any way with all that being said doesn't it really boil down to the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If a person likes the deer, his look, his score, his pedigree etc. then breed to him. If they don't, then there are plenty of others to choose from.

CJ: Thanks for the question because it is a valid question that I hope will answer any questions someone else might also have. I know most of my reply was not about your question on scoring a deer in velvet but I felt the other info needed to be addressed.
 
Wayne,



That is put perfectly! You guys should be very proud with X-Factor. He is really a stud. Shoot, put the score aside, he is one fine looking deer. Good luck to you and Russ.



-Johnny B
 
noname said:
I guess im a bit confused????? How do you get an official score when he was in velvet????? Not trying to start anything but just trying to understand how its even possible to come up with any such score! Please explain this process? Anyone



Dear no name,



It is possible to get an official score on a buck in velvet. The hardest part is to determine where the blood veins are and to be able to follow them back to the main beam or tine. Once you determine that the rest is easy. However, for bucks in velvet, you have to take 2% deduction on the total score.



Chad DeBauch SCI Master Scorer Apple Creek Whitetails
 
I sense some have taken my question the wrong way. My intention wasto get an understanding how ANY deer is scored in velvet. Thanks Wayne for explaining the procedure for doing so.

I also agree with the opinion scores are not the absolute when choosing what to breed to.

I have some xfactor fawns on the ground.
 

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