Fustration with Pneudart

BF Products, INC. Let me know when you have them for sale. I ll sure order from you. I think you could ve sold several orders if you d had them in the past month alone. Jeff

I will give my input for the sake of discussion. I personally would be reluctant to order from BF unless I had no other option. I don't know who BF is and I mean NO ill feelings in this post. Here is why I would be reluctant to buy darts. I even now am concerned about how long a dart has sat around before I use it. I asked what the shelf life was on the darts before it was possible they might not fire on impact. I was told about 1 year. Now I recently purchased enough darts to get me through NEXT falls season. I am concerned about how they will work next year at this time. If a 3rd party is purchasing darts and stocking them I would be concerned how long they have been holding them on the shelf before I bought them. You have to consider that Pneu-Dart makes them sort of as needed as I understand it. So if a 3rd party orders darts to stock them well in advance, and then they don't sell them right away how long have they sat there. That would be my one and only concern. I know bullets sit around for a long time and then still work for the most part. But to be honest a bullet not going off when I want it to when hunting isn't as important to me as that dart going off when I want it to.

Just my thoughts, and again I in NO WAY am bad mouthing BF or any other 3rd party supplier.

All that said it would be nice if a steady supply was available for purchase when we order them.

Roger I don't know if you know but...Every pack of darts from pneudart is stamped with a date on it...So you could tell if they were old.

I did not know that. I just went and looked the the ones that just came in and sure enough. Nov 2 2009

Thanks.

You Welcome

If i was Henry at BF Products and I was going to start into a distributor program with Pneudart i would have Pneudart agree to help turn over the stock, meaning they could use BF stock and replace it as they use it, that way the inventory stays current, of course this offers a service that Pneudart may not already have and BF Products should be comensated or even protected by Pneudart for the service that they are now providing. Pneudart could push orders through their new stocking distributor as opposed to taking orders direct. Of course Pneudart may not be willing to do this and if i was BF I may not want to stock a product with a manufacturer that would not protect me.



Just some thoughts I use Pneudart and have had no problems with them, and i also purchase items from BF and have had no problem with them, this could be a good partnership?????

Roger,

Rest your concerns. If the darts are kept in an environment that is dry and room temp they will last longer than a year. I have some 6cc darts I know are over 5 years old. I used one of them last week and it worked fine.

Very good to know Scott. Thanks.

I don't know if it helps, but I have always kept the little moisture preventer things from my Excedrin...I put them with my ammo and duty belt...and I do the same with my darts.

Roger, you and I have met several times before at shows and I am certain you would know me if we were standing face to face. I understand where you are comming from on the issue of buying from Pneudart direct, I am just looking to help out and at the same time make BF Products more of a one stop shop. I have spoken with Pneudart before about this very thing and I have the utmost faith in Blair and his direction to help me get established. One thing BF Products does is stand behind everything we sell so if something did happen to go bad, we would certainly take care of it. Now with that being said, I am not certain we can carry everything Pneudart offers since they have a tremendous offering but I have had many calls this year asking for darts and I am ready to finalize with Pneudart but I would like some direction from the experts, you guys, what darts sell more so that very thing does not happen. These darts would remain in our office, not our warehouse so the temp. is constant. Painted Meadow, that is a great idea. Rick, thanks for your kind words. If you all could please just respond to what darts you prefer to use or use the most of, I can finalize this with Pneudart and be ready for the spring. Thanks

We use mostly 2cc darts with 1" gel dual port. Also 3 cc in the same design.



Again, know I was in NO WAY speaking negatively about BF. It is great that there are people looing for ways to improve the industry.

We mainly use 1 1/2 cc and 2 cc gel collar darts with 1/2" & 3/4" needles respectively.

Roger, none taken believe me and like I said, I understand your point of view, if I didn't I would not be in business long. I just want to help in any way I can and be closer to the deer industry each day then I was the day before. Roger, if you remember, the last conversation we had together was I had asked you for advise on my doe fawn that was done with no appearant reason. This conversation happened at the Ohio show this fall. Anyway, thanks for giving me what darts you are looking for, I will take care of this on Monday with Pneudart if they are available.

I do want to go on record saying that Pnuedart is a great company and Blair is a cut above the rest, a real stand up guy. After reading my posts I believe it could have been taken the wrong way and I certainly do not mean any disrespect towrds Pneudart or Blair, I just want to help and be involved all I can. Thanks again and God Bless

Yes... but if I had my order in before you ...Your order should not go first because you pay more...A company should stand by getting their orders out...Not taking $$$ to get some out quicker!...screwing customers that planed ahead...

I had a bad experience with that....And ended up paying a small fortune, because I had a Vet scheduled...and needed them...My order was in early.

We use 2 cc,dual port,gel collars with 1 in needles, and 1 cc dual port,gel

collars with 3/4 in needles.

Well I put an order in for a blow gun the other day...I check Three days later because my card hadn't been charged...At that time I was told they are at least Three weeks behind on orders...I said OK I don't need the darts I have plenty but since I was ordering thought I would get some...but that's fine send the blow gun alone.

I have A fawn that needs darted and would like it done softer...She informed me that it's not the dart production that is behind it is the whole process and the order can't be shipped for several weeks...

Most company's add days or hours to get orders out...or at least tell customers their order will not even be touched for at least Three weeks!

Just my thoughts...

Does anyone that has a blow gun know if this is the same...other than it's cheaper and I could get Camo...

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Just get some 1/2 inch inside diameter copper tube for water systems. Forty inches of it is plenty and you can shoot a pnue-dart through it. I add a small disk of thin plastic to the butt end of the dart to help seal the air as you blow. If you tilt it down the dart falls on the ground but hold it level and take the shot....works great and you can get by in a pinch. The pipe comes in 10 foot lengths so you can make three for yourself or give one to a friend. Sometimes you are trying to dart a deer and it will stand by anyone but the guy with the gun so giving out several blow guns to helpers standing in corners can get a wild one darted quickly. Jim

Thanks...I may have to get crafty...