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General Fencing?

Memory Lane Farms said:
I guess I'm missing it but for the corner no concrete right.... And just tamp this post? Thirty feet with a t-post between is the plan. Just curious to what yall set your corners in or with sorry.



We mixed a little dry concrete mix in the dirt and tamped, but I think the most important thing for corners is bracing. I would go tamped dirt with good bracing before full concrete with no bracing.

Our professionally installed fence has the corner posts pounded, but has double bracing.
 
Modified stone or stone dust is a good option around drilled poles for corners. As far as bracing goes here are a few helpful tips.



Horizontal brace poles should be hung at a height of around 72 inches on 8 foot fence. This would be both sides of the pole. Do not level them. Also when hung at this height a 14ft brace pole will give the brace wire approx. a 22 degree angle, which has the most strength. Many have there brace wires at 45 degree angle or more which is counter productive as you are actually lift the corner pole out of the ground.



When building your own fence it pays to pay a consultant to show you proper techniques. It will save you money in the long run. Good luck Ezra.
 
Telephone poles are the way to go!!!! 20' spacing is ideal. Do not use 4x4 or 6x6 or any square lumber they twist, bow and snap off my opinion they look like crap but if that's all your working with then I guess you have to use them. If your drilling your holes clean them out before you set your pole in that gives your pole a good base to rest on. Don't be a wuss when tamping the dirt or what ever you use around the poles make sure its compacted well so nothing shifts. Oh and using concrete around your poles do it if you need it like in swampy areas you can tamp all day and its still a sponge. That pole might rot off in like 15-20 years so you have to replace some oh well they held up. Oh if you can get a fence stapler and and air compressor DO IT!!! Your fingers will love you... For cross braces do what Josh said...
 
WE just put 125 4x4's and 6x6 in the ground and a bag of concrete in every one!!! so i hope i got some of that "special lumber" too !!!



our post are 20' apart on exterior and 30' on interior
 
I am building new fence with 2 7/8 drill stem posts that is almost 1/4 inch thick for the line posts. I have the posts pre-cut to 10'4 and 15'6. I have been pushing them into hard dry sod ground with my JD 7340 loader tractor and putting 4 of the shorter posts then a long one all at 20' and they are rock solid, I think you could even go 6 short then a long with no problem. I bought a brand new danuser post pounder but haven't needed to use it so far other then railroad ties in our cattle feedlot, makes me wonder why the heck I never bought one 20 years ago. I've built fence using wood posts and t-posts and also mixing every other one and this drill stem is so much more solid then the wood and t-posts, I'll never use another wood or t-post ever. This will out live me, my kids or any other wood or t-post available. I could also cut it at an angle so it has somewhat of a point going in also but haven't needed to yet. If you have a bigger loader tractor or even hire or rent a small payloader(or a buddy with one!) you can push in hundreds of posts in a single day with out breaking a sweat, literally a whole breeding facility. They probably wont push in down south like TX but up here where we have regular black dirt it's the only way to go. The cost of having it cut versus the cost of wooden posts and drilling, tamping time and longer life is a no brainer to me.
 
Sounds great sd. I love the idea of well pipe, but with all the cheap, or free locust I have access to...all my pens consist of locust poles. I just got setting all the post for an addition on my breeder pens., and I didn't screw around, I bulilt this one for the long haul. I used 12-14" round de barked locusts 14 foot long, tried to get them all drilled down 4 feet into the ground, many of them are, but I hit a rough stretch of slate and some only made it down 3 feet. I Spaced them out every 16 feet, needless to say this pen is built to last! I am working on corner braces right now, then I will be stretching wire and after fawning all the does will be grazing on fresh pasture all summer.
 
I used cedar post cut on the property. 8"-12", 4' in the ground. 15' spacing except the corners are 12' spacing with H braces and cable.
 
coylerd said:
I used cedar post cut on the property. 8"-12", 4' in the ground. 15' spacing except the corners are 12' spacing with H braces and cable.



On the cedars did you just cut them trim and stick in the ground... I guess I'm asking how you prepped them before setting them!
 
Yup, cut them down, trimmed the branches off, cut 13' long and augured holes. My first pen I did not peel them, my second pen I did peel them. Some have told me they rot faster with the bark on, some say they will rot faster with the bark off. I'll know the answer for sure in 10 or 15 years! An old timer also told me to take your used motor oil and brush it on just below the soil up to just above the soil and it will add years to them. A friend of mine bought pressure treated poles to do his pens and spent a fortune. His will probably last quite a bit longer, and require a lot less hassle, but cost me nothing and I have plenty left to replace them years down the road, if need be.
 
coylerd said:
Yup, cut them down, trimmed the branches off, cut 13' long and augured holes. My first pen I did not peel them, my second pen I did peel them. Some have told me they rot faster with the bark on, some say they will rot faster with the bark off. I'll know the answer for sure in 10 or 15 years! An old timer also told me to take your used motor oil and brush it on just below the soil up to just above the soil and it will add years to them. A friend of mine bought pressure treated poles to do his pens and spent a fortune. His will probably last quite a bit longer, and require a lot less hassle, but cost me nothing and I have plenty left to replace them years down the road, if need be.



This is definitely a tip/trick that I will keep in mind for sure thank you!