Ohio Sale

Some thought the prices were good.....I thought they were low!

Dennis and jstrait, I agree with yous.I was watching the sale online and there were numeras times that online bidders missed getting a lot because the bidding was going too fast.There are numeras animals that would have brought more if the lots would have been given more time.Just my opinion.

Some may not have been given much time but there was others that were given WAY TO MUCH TIME.

too many lots. especially the shooter sale. maybe we should sell 150 shooters one day and 150-200 breeders the next. thought it was a nice sale, kevin and his group do a great job!

roughcountrywhitetails said:

Some may not have been given much time but there was others that were given WAY TO MUCH TIME.

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I agree with you on that statement.

I was there as well and agree it does get too LONG. I sure wish there was a way to limit the amount of consignments. I do not know the right answer and can imagine how hard it would be to tell certain folks, "Sorry you can't sell your animals in this sale." I do not know that offering the first 'x' amount of consignments submitted will be accepted as those of us with electronic forms of submittal would get them in quicker than those without, like those of our members who are Amish. In addition, every sale has to have lots offered that are appealing enough to get folks to attend. SO, while I agree that it is too long, I do not know the proper way to cut it down.



Maybe this would be a good place for us to post and throw out suggestions for the Auction Companies. Then they can come here to see how the industry feels.



Everyone that knows me knows that I am a true believer in everyone having the right to throw out there opinions, posistive or negative; but with that, I also believe that you ought to offer some possible solutions to problems you point out as well!!!

Holly i agree with all. Was there myself and thought it was awful long especially with a 14 hr drive back home. I for one would like for the guys with shooters to have thier own day say wed. because many of us not there to buy just check prices. then break up rest of the lots up over the next 2 days to give everyone a better shot at getting their fair share of time. then those of us just coming to the regular sale we don't unintentionaly become part of the problem when we are visiting with old friends and new by being somewhat of a distraction! still had a great time enjoyed seeing everyone just my thoughts thanks!

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~ Shooter Sale ~



Categorize the bucks in 2 categories, ones that have to stay 'in-state' and ones that are tested and can leave. That would cut down a ton of time as they wouldn't have to try to track down and ask the guy if they are testing during the auction. Say, the first group of bucks have to stay in state and the last group can go anywhere.



~ Breeder Auction ~



Maybe Kevin's group or the Ohio Deer Breeders Board could set a panel to narrow down the submissions. I know there are a lot of logisitcs involved, but with some criteria and finding a group that would have the spare time, that might work. There are just way too many consignments and I could see everyone's interest falling by the wayside as the time went by.



Maybe instead of folks putting in 2 or 3 consignments, only allow one per farm. That way, you wouldn't have to deny anyone???



This may be another whole topic in itself, but I was talking about this with a good friend.... Consignors should have to disclose how many times they are slpitting a straw of semen! I would be more apt to bid on a doe that has a 1/2 straw in her than an 1/8 of a straw. Having that information readily available would cut some time as well. I feel bad for guys that their does they purchased didn't stick and found out afterwards that the straws had been split a ridiculous amount of times.



Since 'No Sales' are an option, consignors should have to accept the final bid or deny it instantly.... When negotiations start on the floor, it seems to take a ton of time.



Hey, how about having a little timer by the auctioneer that gets set at the start of each consignment and he can shout out a 10 second warning during the bidding and the bidders will learn in a quick hurry that it is 'now or never'? Then there wouldn't be anyone left feeling as if there lot didn't get as much time as the next guy's did.

Holly I think those are great ideas and i wish it was as simple as just putting them in place. However, these auctions are a business and the guys running them have an interest in not only making you money on your animals but putting more money in their pockets as well.......so you have a consignment from a newer farm like mine and then you have a consignment from a very well known farm.......the auctioneers know they will have more interest on the better known farm and therefore will give it more time....does it seem fair....NO.....but i guess those guys with the better known farms had to be the little guy at one time or another so I don't see them ever giving equal time for each consignment as they would just be hurting their own sales numbers (just a thought). As for the semen and knowing if they split a straw a bunch of times.......that is a tough one........how about knowing if they ever even Aied the doe you bought or if they just used that as a sales pitch and just bred the doe to their back-up buck......the only way around that is to guarantee a fawn and have it DNAed. With the amount of people getting into the industry I don't see anyway of these future auctions getting faster.....if anything they are going to continue to get longer and there will many more of the auctions as well. these are just my thoughts......but don't get me wrong......if they can find a way to shorten the sales up a bit and still everyone makes their money......You sure got my vote!!

I think the sales should be set up without the option to no sale a deer or at least have the auction start at the reserve price if there are no bids move on. I can't stand bidding on something and the bid is say $7800 and it does not sale because they wanted $8000. in most case's the final bid and the reserve are not that far apart but the seller trys to get that extra $500 or $1000 from the bidder when that happens they can keep there deer I don't go to an auction to be told how much to pay I go to bid The top 30 is one auction that I can't wait for every year they have great deer and there are no nosales thats the way it should be set up. just had to vent a little sorry.

I going to chime in here. I was at the sale and now know what some of my students felt like when I was teaching. I kept losing focus on the sale and looking for things to entertain myself (Maybe I have ADD). I know many times I didnt realize a lot ended and another started..... including my own.



Consignments without 5yr CWD should be eliminated completely. I dont think any of them got sold. I know I said something to someone there about that and they felt someone knew could buy them but why would they. If i were new getting into it I would want t buy 5yr status. That would eliminate some consignments speed things up knowing that I could potentially buy every consignment there. You didnt have time to even ask the question if someone was qualified (many of the newer folks) so in turn you didnt take the chance of buying or bidding. Less is More!



I dont think the industry can handle anymore sales. You can only travel so much and if you dont have buyers then there not gonna be successful and were back to talking like after the Yoder sale 2 weeks ago. The SKy is Falling!



Great idea Holly about disclosing how much semen was put in the deer, who AI'd it and the condition of the doe should be provided at the time of sale or in the case of the earlier sales before pickup. That should be condition of the sale to give the buyer some protection.



Talk about adding new sales my wife just handed me the Hoosier Supreme sale catalog. It is the week following the PaDFA sale! What a great idea putting sale on back to back weekends. Then I see on the back cover a new sale in Pa the same weekend as the Mid America sale. WOW!

I cannot say anymore Im a bit distracted now. Maybe my ADD kicking in again. I know so many of us try to do whats best for the industry and stuff like this is not good for industry. I wish every sale could be successful but realistically not feasible.



Thats not a bad idea, roughcountry, have a starting bid and move from there.

Wonder who came up with the semen sugggestions, Harry



There are WAY too many sales, plain and simple. Every time you feel there can't be another, you hear of a new one starting up. I don't know how to limit that besides quit consigning. I know that is what David has considered but then you get the auction companies upset when you tell them you don't have anything to offer.



Maybe each auction company should choose their top 2 and stick with that???



I must have ADD too because I was in the same boat

Hey you used my name I was trying to be incognito(sp??)

I guess we need to go with certain sales and back them to assure were gonna get a good turn out and if there are other sales that put in anything/everything as well as stack on top of each other......Dont blame anyone but themselves when you see the low numbers on prices and turn-out or at least expect it dont sound shock to see it.



Maybe each auction company should choose their top 2 and stick with that??? Holly..Holly....I dont see the top 2 sale company agreeing to that and I dont blame them do you?

Whats next some others start sales and each get one?



Seems we all have conditioned ourselves to put all our animals in the sales and forgot about farm sales.



Hey Holly one last thing to say Get a Cooking!

Shoot.... I can edit my previous post to leave out names, just give the word.



I understand that the top 2 may not agree to it, but could we like put a cap on it or something You know as well as I, ALL the companies keep adding sales. I want them all to do well and I just feel like each of them will start to feel a hit with each additional sale that comes around. Sometimes we all have to give a little to preserve what we love. OK, maybe not limit to 2, how about 15 a peice, would that work



I much prefer sales off the farm, no doubt! That way you have some say on where your genetics are going!!!



I'm workin' on the cookin', I swear

I think the sales will thin themselves out - if they are unsuccessful people will be reluctant to put anything in next time around.



We put things in just a few sales each year - so we pick and choose. Each farm has to make their own decisions on sales as to whether it is worth it or not.

That's right Wild Rivers, if we all put something in each sale we wouldn't have any deer left on the farm with as many as there are now!

Amen sisters!

Im selecting what sales fit into my schedule and the ones I think will benefit my farm the best. Obviously I will promote those sales as well or is that wrong?



Holly thats why my user name is mrwhiteails instead of mrwhitetails so I could hide my identity or was it the the fact I couldnt spell my own farm name????? I like the hidden identity story better. Just kidding about using my name thou. Guess I should have put LMFAO after it.

You know the last few letters you typed????? Yep, that's it. I never even noticed the typo in your screen name. I don't care who you are, that right there is some pretty funny stuff, teacher?????

We [prefer to attend sales that we have items in, and since we have a hunting operation, we are pretty tied up from Labor Day until December. We don't usually participate in anything during that timeframe. The Ohio sale was the last travel we have planned until after Christmas. Then we have outdoor shows that we do as well as auctions and conventions - so just can't make everything.