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QDMA Urges Hunters in Seven States to Oppose Deer-Breeding Legislation
by Outdoor Hub on February 22, 2012
The Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA) is urging hunters in seven states to oppose the expansion of the deer-breeding industry, which QDMA perceives as a growing threat to wild deer and the deer-hunting heritage. Legislation designed to loosen or dismantle regulatory barriers to white-tailed deer breeding and farming is being considered in Georgia, Indiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia.
"There are no benefits for deer hunters in the growth of the captive deer-breeding industry - only risks," said Kip Adams, QDMA's Director of Education & Outreach and a certified wildlife biologist. "It is QDMA's mission to protect the future of white-tailed deer and our hunting heritage, and we oppose anything that puts those at risk."
In opposing the proliferation of "deer breeding," QDMA is referring to captive deer facilities where controlled, artificial breeding technology is used primarily to produce whitetail bucks with enormous, often grotesque antlers - an industry that includes sales of semen, artificially impregnated does, and live bucks to other breeders or to captive deer shooting facilities. Current estimates suggest there are nearly 10,000 deer breeding operations in North America, and the number is growing as the industry pushes to expand into areas where it was historically not legal.
"Some argue this is an innocent endeavor with no negative impacts to wild deer or the everyday deer hunter. As CEO of North America's leading whitetail conservation organization, I emphatically and unapologetically disagree," said Brian Murphy, QDMA's Chief Executive Officer. "Not only does this industry undermine the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation in which wildlife is a public resource, it also threatens the health of wild deer and the public's perception of hunting."
The distribution map of chronic wasting disease (CWD) - a fatal disease of deer and elk - suggests the disease likely arrived in several new states through transportation of live deer, either legally or illegally, and not through natural deer movements. Legalizing deer breeding in new areas increases the incentive for illegal transportation of untested animals at a time when these human-aided movements must be stopped. Transporting any captive whitetails is risky, as there is no acceptable and practical live-animal test for CWD. Once CWD appears in wild deer in a new area, slowing the spread of the disease requires costly investigation, testing and surveillance efforts for many years and often requires drastic reductions in deer populations. There is currently no known way to decontaminate an environment once CWD is present.
In more than 40 states, regulatory authority over captive deer facilities is held by state agriculture agencies, or shared between agriculture and wildlife agencies. QDMA recommends that wildlife agencies have sole responsibility because they have more experience with wildlife species and wildlife disease issues, and they fully understand what is at stake with regard to transmission of diseases like CWD to free-ranging deer.
"QDMA's current effort is to halt expansion of the deer-breeding industry," said Adams. "We also want sole jurisdiction for existing facilities to remain with or be reassigned to state wildlife agencies. Considering the implications for our hunting heritage, we can't afford to allow this industry to expand. The ramifications of being wrong are simply too great."
QDMA is currently urging resident hunters to oppose existing or potential legislation in the following states:
Georgia: House Bill 1043 - Legalizes the importation of live whitetails into Georgia for breeding purposes and creates a permitting system for deer-breeding operations, all under the jurisdiction of the state Department of Agriculture. Current status: House second-readers as of February 22.
Indiana - House Bill 1265 - Provides for the licensing and operations of hunting preserves on which farm-bred, captive deer and elk will be hunted. Current Status - Senator David Long (President Pro Tempore) refused to hear the bill. It remains in committee.
Mississippi - Senate Bills 2554 and 2555 - Legalizes importation of captive deer, semen and embryos and authorizes deer breeding facilities, under the jurisdiction of the state agriculture department. Current Status - Both bills referred to Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks Committee on February 20.
Missouri - House Bill 1375 - Adds deer to the definition of "livestock" for the purposes of the state sales and use tax law, meat inspection law, Missouri Livestock Disease Control and Eradication Law, and the Missouri Livestock Marketing Law. Current Status - House second-readers as of February 22.
North Carolina - Currently at the proposal stage; no bill number yet. The spoken intent is to loosen regulations to allow for expansion of the captive deer industry. A QDMA staff member will attend a board meeting with the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission in Raleigh on March 7 on this topic.
Tennessee - House Bill 3164 - Present law classifies white-tailed deer as Class IV wildlife, which may only be possessed by zoos, temporary exhibitors, and rehabilitation facilities. This bill adds authorization for possession of white-tailed deer by breeding facilities that receive a permit from the Department of Agriculture to breed or ranch such livestock for purposes determined by the Department. Current Status - Placed on calendar for Agriculture Committee for March 6.
West Virginia - Senate Bill 421 - Captive Cervid Farming Act - Transfers regulatory authority over captive white-tailed deer facilities from the Division of Natural Resources (DNR) to the Department of Agriculture. Current Status - referred to Rules Committee on February 17.
by Outdoor Hub on February 22, 2012
The Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA) is urging hunters in seven states to oppose the expansion of the deer-breeding industry, which QDMA perceives as a growing threat to wild deer and the deer-hunting heritage. Legislation designed to loosen or dismantle regulatory barriers to white-tailed deer breeding and farming is being considered in Georgia, Indiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia.
"There are no benefits for deer hunters in the growth of the captive deer-breeding industry - only risks," said Kip Adams, QDMA's Director of Education & Outreach and a certified wildlife biologist. "It is QDMA's mission to protect the future of white-tailed deer and our hunting heritage, and we oppose anything that puts those at risk."
In opposing the proliferation of "deer breeding," QDMA is referring to captive deer facilities where controlled, artificial breeding technology is used primarily to produce whitetail bucks with enormous, often grotesque antlers - an industry that includes sales of semen, artificially impregnated does, and live bucks to other breeders or to captive deer shooting facilities. Current estimates suggest there are nearly 10,000 deer breeding operations in North America, and the number is growing as the industry pushes to expand into areas where it was historically not legal.
"Some argue this is an innocent endeavor with no negative impacts to wild deer or the everyday deer hunter. As CEO of North America's leading whitetail conservation organization, I emphatically and unapologetically disagree," said Brian Murphy, QDMA's Chief Executive Officer. "Not only does this industry undermine the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation in which wildlife is a public resource, it also threatens the health of wild deer and the public's perception of hunting."
The distribution map of chronic wasting disease (CWD) - a fatal disease of deer and elk - suggests the disease likely arrived in several new states through transportation of live deer, either legally or illegally, and not through natural deer movements. Legalizing deer breeding in new areas increases the incentive for illegal transportation of untested animals at a time when these human-aided movements must be stopped. Transporting any captive whitetails is risky, as there is no acceptable and practical live-animal test for CWD. Once CWD appears in wild deer in a new area, slowing the spread of the disease requires costly investigation, testing and surveillance efforts for many years and often requires drastic reductions in deer populations. There is currently no known way to decontaminate an environment once CWD is present.
In more than 40 states, regulatory authority over captive deer facilities is held by state agriculture agencies, or shared between agriculture and wildlife agencies. QDMA recommends that wildlife agencies have sole responsibility because they have more experience with wildlife species and wildlife disease issues, and they fully understand what is at stake with regard to transmission of diseases like CWD to free-ranging deer.
"QDMA's current effort is to halt expansion of the deer-breeding industry," said Adams. "We also want sole jurisdiction for existing facilities to remain with or be reassigned to state wildlife agencies. Considering the implications for our hunting heritage, we can't afford to allow this industry to expand. The ramifications of being wrong are simply too great."
QDMA is currently urging resident hunters to oppose existing or potential legislation in the following states:
Georgia: House Bill 1043 - Legalizes the importation of live whitetails into Georgia for breeding purposes and creates a permitting system for deer-breeding operations, all under the jurisdiction of the state Department of Agriculture. Current status: House second-readers as of February 22.
Indiana - House Bill 1265 - Provides for the licensing and operations of hunting preserves on which farm-bred, captive deer and elk will be hunted. Current Status - Senator David Long (President Pro Tempore) refused to hear the bill. It remains in committee.
Mississippi - Senate Bills 2554 and 2555 - Legalizes importation of captive deer, semen and embryos and authorizes deer breeding facilities, under the jurisdiction of the state agriculture department. Current Status - Both bills referred to Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks Committee on February 20.
Missouri - House Bill 1375 - Adds deer to the definition of "livestock" for the purposes of the state sales and use tax law, meat inspection law, Missouri Livestock Disease Control and Eradication Law, and the Missouri Livestock Marketing Law. Current Status - House second-readers as of February 22.
North Carolina - Currently at the proposal stage; no bill number yet. The spoken intent is to loosen regulations to allow for expansion of the captive deer industry. A QDMA staff member will attend a board meeting with the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission in Raleigh on March 7 on this topic.
Tennessee - House Bill 3164 - Present law classifies white-tailed deer as Class IV wildlife, which may only be possessed by zoos, temporary exhibitors, and rehabilitation facilities. This bill adds authorization for possession of white-tailed deer by breeding facilities that receive a permit from the Department of Agriculture to breed or ranch such livestock for purposes determined by the Department. Current Status - Placed on calendar for Agriculture Committee for March 6.
West Virginia - Senate Bill 421 - Captive Cervid Farming Act - Transfers regulatory authority over captive white-tailed deer facilities from the Division of Natural Resources (DNR) to the Department of Agriculture. Current Status - referred to Rules Committee on February 17.
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Looks like Outdoor News is at it again. Now they have QDMA slamming us. Why doesn't NADEFA take legal action these people spreading lies. They can't prove the statements they make.
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Just another lame way of trying to fight something they have no control over. Hunting and people in general has and will continue to go down hill from what hunting used to be. With land getting ate up in industry and human growth its hard to find GOOD places to hunt. There is very little camp life that hunting was built around back in the good ole days.Life has changed along with the world.People no longer have time in our fast paced world.It is a bad thing really with kids more into computers,cell phones and video games. They want to blame it on deer farming as a way to make themselves feel better on something they have no control over. The cwd excuse is a joke. We know that and they know that. Deer farming i believe will grow and high fence hunting at well ran ranches with fair prices for the average working man will continue to do well.
I have spent most of the day spreading the bad news about QDMAQ's new direction. How dare they join the side of PETA and HSUS. I have spent the entire day emailing to huntin ranches ouside of Wi to see if they knwo about his. Here is the
letter my husband has written to Brian Murphy.
Mr. Brian Murphy March 3, 2012
QDMA
PO Box 160
Bogart, Ga. 30622
Dear Brian:
I have been an ardent supporter and member of QDMA ever since its start many years ago. I have served on the Board of Directors of our local chapter and have donated several thousand dollars in merchandise to the fundraisers. You came to our chapter’s banquet several years ago to speak and we met personally. I am sure you don’t remember me but that’s not important. I own a taxidermy studio and have been a local outlet for QDM signs and seed distribution. I have given QDM presentations to any group that requested it. I have been invited to give the presentation to hunter safety education groups which I did and was well received. When customers come into my shop the first thing they see is a large QDMA sign custom made with deer mount s on a large solid walnut panel. I am writing all of this to let you know of my beliefs in QDM and the past level of support I have given to the QDMA.
Unfortunately, it looks as though this will all change. You and other members of the National Board of Directors have chosen to go against the QDMA mission statement and code of conduct which I and many other supporters find very troubling. I am referring to the following. “The time has come for all deer hunting enthusiasts, regardless of their choice of weapon or hunting technique, to unite and focus on the common thread that binds them all together”, and “Members should respect the activity and beliefs of other hunters, landowners, and the public”.
When you issued the press release condemning the deer breeding industry and hunting ranches you stepped on a lot of toes of some very big supporters of your organization. Why, when the anti-hunting groups like PETA and HSUS are engaged in an all out battle to end all hunting would you drive a wedge between the ranks? What happened to “United we stand, divided we fall” philosophy that we all know to be true.
If you haven’t guessed, in addition to being a member of QDMA I am also a deer breeder and operator of a hunting ranch and I can say I am extremely proud of what I do. What I most am upset with is the way you characterize the hunting ranch industry. We have heard all the rhetoric before. Where? From PETA and HSUS who are trying to portray us in a negative manner. It hurts me to see you side with them and use the same false arguments against the hunting ranches. Remember this; hunting ranches would not exist without clients. Why do people come to ranches? It’s for a positive experience that they haven’t been able to find in their previous hunting environment. Why is that? Number 1, Questionable management philosophies by state game managers that have made the hunting experience on public lands anything but a quality experience. Number 2, Thousands of acres of pristine wildlife habitat is being diverted to development each year. If the trend continues where are our grandchildren and their children going to hunt? Number 3, The hunting ranch industry all across this country has embraced the Wounded Warriors and Hunts for Heroes programs and have provided free hunts to 100’s of disabled American Veterans. We also embrace United Sportsmen with Disabilities where hundreds of disabled and terminally ill children are given that all important opportunity to experience the thrill of a hunt. When you side with PETA and HSUS to try and put a stop to hunting ranches you are also trying to deny these opportunities to them. Do you want to tell the Wounded Warriors Organization that you think it’s ok for these opportunities to be taken away from our Veterans? I think not.
It baffles me to think that you could be naïve enough to believe that if PETA, HSUS, and QDMA are successful in banning hunting ranches and captive deer breeding, that PETA and HSUS wouldn’t use this as a launching platform to go after and ban all forms of hunting? We all know this is their ultimate goal. QDMA would be better served if they partnered with Safari Club International which is the leading defender of hunters’ rights in the country. Incidentally SCI is also a strong supporter of the hunting ranch industry.
In any organization or industry there can be a bad apple. I know that, but you are condemning an entire industry based on false pretenses. Since cervid breeding farms that move live animals were mandated to enroll their entire herd in a state monitored CWD program there has not been a single incident where CWD has been found to have been transferred from a farm with more than 5 years enrollment in a CWD program. Because enrollment is mandatory the risk of a cervid farm moving an infected animal has proven to be non-existent. It’s true, people violate laws, however to blame an entire industry for the actions of a law breaker is unfair. Recently I became aware of a couple of individuals who post their property with QDM signs and were caught trespassing and poaching on adjacent property. When folks came into my taxidermy business blasting QDM for this I defended the QDMA the same way. The organization shouldn’t be held responsible for the activities of one of its members.
I don’t know how many members the QDMA has but I am sure it is in the thousands. How many people were involved in the decision to issue the press release? My guess is not very many. Most deer breeders and hunting ranch operators are familiar with QDM and support it. I am sure many like me are members. The various chapters always include us when the solicit donations for their banquets and we oblige. It would be an interesting poll to see how many people who believe in QDM patronize hunting ranches. In my situation, when my hunting clients see QDMA materials in my lodge and in my shop we often talk about it. Many of my clients are members of QDMA.
I have been in the deer business all my life. 45 years as a taxidermist and 17 years as a deer breeder and hunting ranch operator. I have been involved in both state and national organizations of deer farms for many years. I have never met a group of people who have a greater passion for the whitetailed deer than this group. They are the most conservation minded folks I have ever been involved with, as well as the nicest people I know. Their passion and dedication to the welfare of the whitetail deer is shared equally between animals both inside and outside the fences. The QDMA is doing a great disservice to these people.
I am saddened by the direction you and the Board have taken on this issue. I am also saddened that I can no longer support the organization that I had so much respect for. Please delete my name from your membership rolls.
Sincerely,
William Vyvyan
Neillsville, Wi.
Ps: You have my permission to print this letter in your magazine however I wont hold my breath waiting for it.
letter my husband has written to Brian Murphy.
Mr. Brian Murphy March 3, 2012
QDMA
PO Box 160
Bogart, Ga. 30622
Dear Brian:
I have been an ardent supporter and member of QDMA ever since its start many years ago. I have served on the Board of Directors of our local chapter and have donated several thousand dollars in merchandise to the fundraisers. You came to our chapter’s banquet several years ago to speak and we met personally. I am sure you don’t remember me but that’s not important. I own a taxidermy studio and have been a local outlet for QDM signs and seed distribution. I have given QDM presentations to any group that requested it. I have been invited to give the presentation to hunter safety education groups which I did and was well received. When customers come into my shop the first thing they see is a large QDMA sign custom made with deer mount s on a large solid walnut panel. I am writing all of this to let you know of my beliefs in QDM and the past level of support I have given to the QDMA.
Unfortunately, it looks as though this will all change. You and other members of the National Board of Directors have chosen to go against the QDMA mission statement and code of conduct which I and many other supporters find very troubling. I am referring to the following. “The time has come for all deer hunting enthusiasts, regardless of their choice of weapon or hunting technique, to unite and focus on the common thread that binds them all together”, and “Members should respect the activity and beliefs of other hunters, landowners, and the public”.
When you issued the press release condemning the deer breeding industry and hunting ranches you stepped on a lot of toes of some very big supporters of your organization. Why, when the anti-hunting groups like PETA and HSUS are engaged in an all out battle to end all hunting would you drive a wedge between the ranks? What happened to “United we stand, divided we fall” philosophy that we all know to be true.
If you haven’t guessed, in addition to being a member of QDMA I am also a deer breeder and operator of a hunting ranch and I can say I am extremely proud of what I do. What I most am upset with is the way you characterize the hunting ranch industry. We have heard all the rhetoric before. Where? From PETA and HSUS who are trying to portray us in a negative manner. It hurts me to see you side with them and use the same false arguments against the hunting ranches. Remember this; hunting ranches would not exist without clients. Why do people come to ranches? It’s for a positive experience that they haven’t been able to find in their previous hunting environment. Why is that? Number 1, Questionable management philosophies by state game managers that have made the hunting experience on public lands anything but a quality experience. Number 2, Thousands of acres of pristine wildlife habitat is being diverted to development each year. If the trend continues where are our grandchildren and their children going to hunt? Number 3, The hunting ranch industry all across this country has embraced the Wounded Warriors and Hunts for Heroes programs and have provided free hunts to 100’s of disabled American Veterans. We also embrace United Sportsmen with Disabilities where hundreds of disabled and terminally ill children are given that all important opportunity to experience the thrill of a hunt. When you side with PETA and HSUS to try and put a stop to hunting ranches you are also trying to deny these opportunities to them. Do you want to tell the Wounded Warriors Organization that you think it’s ok for these opportunities to be taken away from our Veterans? I think not.
It baffles me to think that you could be naïve enough to believe that if PETA, HSUS, and QDMA are successful in banning hunting ranches and captive deer breeding, that PETA and HSUS wouldn’t use this as a launching platform to go after and ban all forms of hunting? We all know this is their ultimate goal. QDMA would be better served if they partnered with Safari Club International which is the leading defender of hunters’ rights in the country. Incidentally SCI is also a strong supporter of the hunting ranch industry.
In any organization or industry there can be a bad apple. I know that, but you are condemning an entire industry based on false pretenses. Since cervid breeding farms that move live animals were mandated to enroll their entire herd in a state monitored CWD program there has not been a single incident where CWD has been found to have been transferred from a farm with more than 5 years enrollment in a CWD program. Because enrollment is mandatory the risk of a cervid farm moving an infected animal has proven to be non-existent. It’s true, people violate laws, however to blame an entire industry for the actions of a law breaker is unfair. Recently I became aware of a couple of individuals who post their property with QDM signs and were caught trespassing and poaching on adjacent property. When folks came into my taxidermy business blasting QDM for this I defended the QDMA the same way. The organization shouldn’t be held responsible for the activities of one of its members.
I don’t know how many members the QDMA has but I am sure it is in the thousands. How many people were involved in the decision to issue the press release? My guess is not very many. Most deer breeders and hunting ranch operators are familiar with QDM and support it. I am sure many like me are members. The various chapters always include us when the solicit donations for their banquets and we oblige. It would be an interesting poll to see how many people who believe in QDM patronize hunting ranches. In my situation, when my hunting clients see QDMA materials in my lodge and in my shop we often talk about it. Many of my clients are members of QDMA.
I have been in the deer business all my life. 45 years as a taxidermist and 17 years as a deer breeder and hunting ranch operator. I have been involved in both state and national organizations of deer farms for many years. I have never met a group of people who have a greater passion for the whitetailed deer than this group. They are the most conservation minded folks I have ever been involved with, as well as the nicest people I know. Their passion and dedication to the welfare of the whitetail deer is shared equally between animals both inside and outside the fences. The QDMA is doing a great disservice to these people.
I am saddened by the direction you and the Board have taken on this issue. I am also saddened that I can no longer support the organization that I had so much respect for. Please delete my name from your membership rolls.
Sincerely,
William Vyvyan
Neillsville, Wi.
Ps: You have my permission to print this letter in your magazine however I wont hold my breath waiting for it.
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Very good letter. You husband sounds like he's a good man. Someone this industry should be proud that he's part of.
Very good letter. You husband sounds like he's a good man. Someone this industry should be proud that he's part of.
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Sam you got to be kidding me......these guys are something else......I pray they realize that they made a mistake and rethink their position.......but the damage is already kind of done!
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Paul they are not just removing votes... They are removing full posts that are proving that they are losing members and sponsers. I put a post on showing one very to the point post of a sponser dropping them for their stupid move. Then to top it off we were showing them up so bad that they closed the thread altogether. They know they are full of it on some of their comments and they could not handle the heat.
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I was fishin around over on their website and this is what i found. This is unreal. This lucky star ranch is a high fence preserve of i believe around 300 acres but im not 100% on that. They are saying how we are hurting this and killing that but then the members bring their kids to an antler hunt at a high fence operation. WOW!!!
Our branch will be hosting a booth at the " Great Outdoor Show " at the YMCA next the fairgrounds in Watertown NY The dates : March 23 - 24 - 25
We will also be holding our annual youth antler shed hunt April 22 at the " Lucky Star Ranch " Chaumont NY 9:00 AM until 12:00 PM. There will be a hot dog and hamburger lunch immediately following the shed hunting activities. Sign up sheets will be at the Expo or I will have more info after our meeting March 5.
PM me if you have questions
Our branch will be hosting a booth at the " Great Outdoor Show " at the YMCA next the fairgrounds in Watertown NY The dates : March 23 - 24 - 25
We will also be holding our annual youth antler shed hunt April 22 at the " Lucky Star Ranch " Chaumont NY 9:00 AM until 12:00 PM. There will be a hot dog and hamburger lunch immediately following the shed hunting activities. Sign up sheets will be at the Expo or I will have more info after our meeting March 5.
PM me if you have questions
Interesting piece of property For Sale http://www.whitetailproperties.com/hunting-land/missouri/crawford/1662-acre-crawford-county-missouri-hunting-operation-with-lodge From a QDMA Sponsor
It's great to see folks on this, when I heard about this first, about 2 weeks ago, I visited major cervid industry association sites and saw nothing on this, except at NADeFA. That scared me. It worries me right now. If it weren't for Keith Warren, NADeFA, Outdoor Patriot and the folks such as yourselves out there making the contacts, writing the letters, and not standing for the idiocy, there wouldn't be any cervid farming left. Too often, folks don't get int the fight until there is a bill in their state that would shut them down. This is part of why year after year we see the same lies and claims. Ethics you can argue all day and never get far, but the disease and other things with hard facts should've been shut down and proven wrong on a national basis long ago. We fight this fight over and over. I wish associations would put together and push some big education, not just state by state or county by county. There were huge steps taken and some headway made when the 60 minutes and other airing after happened, only to be followed by QDMA's screaming bloody murder over legislation in these 7 states. When Idaho had 9 bills in the statehouse to shut us down completely in 2007 after a big escape, most ranchers showed up and testified and wrote letters and educated and funded work to save our farms. We beat the bills, fought off a few more the next year, and nothing since. But since that spring, we haven't been able to get participation from more than a handful. It's hard when folks won't step up and do the work til after the barn's on fire. It's the same all over I think, and I wish those of us pushing all the time could get some back up and do some huge campaigning to get rid of the propaganda that is scientifically false, and show what we really do. Keith Warren has taken huge steps towards just that, and it's helping, bigtime. Imagine if even half of the US's cervid producers did all they could to hold open houses, hold meetings with FAQ's, invited legislators and leaders to their farms and talk with them, do chamber meetings. We all have jobs to do, some of us more than one- we are all busy. We can't afford to keep silent except when it all comes down on us. Offense. Thanks to everyone here and elsewhere fighting the fight, now and always.
When a group such as QDMA is attacking us, and it is full of hypocrisy as stated, let it be known. When there is ulterior motive, their claims won't hold water once that comes to light. These people will stop at nothing. A group here was overheard planning domestic terrorism when the bills they brought died. They were contemplating planting disease. A "sportsman's" group invited HSUS to their protest. The group's leader was traced back to the activist panel that invited wolf introduction to Idaho that now have decimated our ungulates in Idaho's wilds. A fish and game leader stood in front of the Senate and refused to answer when he was asked if they cut the fence to cause the escape that led to the fiasco and legislation to shut elk farms down. When there is corruptness, hypocrisy, and lies, prove it- keep records, do screen shots and show that "saving wild herds" is the last priority on their list afterall. If they really were worried about our wildlife, they'd be spending their resources fighting the proven threats. Our cervids are the ones at risk when wildlife is diseased and being relocated for wildlife services purposes with no testing. When the time and money is spent on a supposed threat, the real worry isn't what it appears to be! So much in my brain, I am probably rambling and making no sense, so I hope even though, that there's some sense to my yacking here...
When a group such as QDMA is attacking us, and it is full of hypocrisy as stated, let it be known. When there is ulterior motive, their claims won't hold water once that comes to light. These people will stop at nothing. A group here was overheard planning domestic terrorism when the bills they brought died. They were contemplating planting disease. A "sportsman's" group invited HSUS to their protest. The group's leader was traced back to the activist panel that invited wolf introduction to Idaho that now have decimated our ungulates in Idaho's wilds. A fish and game leader stood in front of the Senate and refused to answer when he was asked if they cut the fence to cause the escape that led to the fiasco and legislation to shut elk farms down. When there is corruptness, hypocrisy, and lies, prove it- keep records, do screen shots and show that "saving wild herds" is the last priority on their list afterall. If they really were worried about our wildlife, they'd be spending their resources fighting the proven threats. Our cervids are the ones at risk when wildlife is diseased and being relocated for wildlife services purposes with no testing. When the time and money is spent on a supposed threat, the real worry isn't what it appears to be! So much in my brain, I am probably rambling and making no sense, so I hope even though, that there's some sense to my yacking here...
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Here is an e-mail I just back this morning from Purina.
Cody,
Thank you for expressing your concerns. After careful and thoughtful review of our wildlife advertising and sponsorships, we are not continuing our national sponsorship of the QDMA.
Regards,
Beverly Fischer
Customer Service Manager
Land O'Lakes Purina Feed
Gray Summit, MO 63039
800-227-8941/636-742-6220
[email protected]
Cody Warne
Cody,
Thank you for expressing your concerns. After careful and thoughtful review of our wildlife advertising and sponsorships, we are not continuing our national sponsorship of the QDMA.
Regards,
Beverly Fischer
Customer Service Manager
Land O'Lakes Purina Feed
Gray Summit, MO 63039
800-227-8941/636-742-6220
[email protected]
Cody Warne
If you are trying to remain informed about this topic, and want to vote with your dollars, this was a post on a thread on the QDMA forum today (posted by the moderator):
"OK, here is the deal.
I have confirmed with QDMA Headquarters that Cargill has not, nor has any corporate sponsor informed them they are pulling their sponsorship or support of QDMA.
Its pretty clear that the deer breeding lobbyist are lettings Corp Sponsors know they don't like QDMA's recent opposition to new legislation and they are asking them to drop their support for QDMA."
Maybe they haven't pulled support, maybe they have and didn't inform them yet, maybe their contracts are valid until a certain date- who knows. Let's not assume too much.
This is going to be an ongoing issue now, not a flash in the pan. Keep it respectful, folks- we only make ourselves look like idiots if we act like idiots. I have a feeling there are a ton of bystanders, just watching the interactions on their forum. Remember also that they are largely quoting information from many years ago as if it is an absolute fact.
"OK, here is the deal.
I have confirmed with QDMA Headquarters that Cargill has not, nor has any corporate sponsor informed them they are pulling their sponsorship or support of QDMA.
Its pretty clear that the deer breeding lobbyist are lettings Corp Sponsors know they don't like QDMA's recent opposition to new legislation and they are asking them to drop their support for QDMA."
Maybe they haven't pulled support, maybe they have and didn't inform them yet, maybe their contracts are valid until a certain date- who knows. Let's not assume too much.
This is going to be an ongoing issue now, not a flash in the pan. Keep it respectful, folks- we only make ourselves look like idiots if we act like idiots. I have a feeling there are a ton of bystanders, just watching the interactions on their forum. Remember also that they are largely quoting information from many years ago as if it is an absolute fact.
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If you want to get answers go to the qdm fourms and ask about this leader.
CEO (Brian Murphy) Worked in a Deer Breeding Facility
Brian Murphy
Wildlife Biologist and CEO of Quality Deer Management Association
Brian Murphy was born in New Mexico and raised in Texas and Oklahoma. His life-long passion for the outdoors led him to pursue a career in wildlife conservation and management. Brian received his B.S. in Range and Wildlife Management from Texas Tech University and his M.S. in Wildlife Resources from the University of Georgia. Following graduation, Brian worked as a Wildlife Research Coordinator for the University of Georgia where he coordinated all deer research. In 1993, Brian accepted the position of Deer Biologist for the Australian government. During Brian's four years “down under,” he implemented the concepts of Quality Deer Management and Property-based Game Management on more than 500,000 acres. During his last year, Brian established a Game Management Unit within the Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Service, only the second such unit in Australia at the time. In 1996 Brian received the National Conservation Award from the Australian Deer Association.
Upon returning to the United States in 1997, Brian accepted the position of Chief Executive Officer with the Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA). During Brian’s 12 years with QDMA, membership has grown from 3,400 to 50,000 in all 50 states, Canada and several countries. Today, QDMA is widely regarded as the most respected and influential whitetail organization in North America.
Brian also is a prolific writer and speaker, having conducted over 600 lectures on deer biology and management and published nearly 120 popular and scientific articles and book chapters.
BRIAN MURPHY HAS BENEFITED FROM RESEARCH IN DEER BREEDING FACILITITES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA. HE WORKED WITH THE AUSTRAILIAN DEER ASSOCIATION ( A HIGH FENCE DEER BREEDING ASSOCIATION) TO IMPROVE THEIR PROGRAM.
THIS CEO OF QDMA IS TAKING A HYPOCRITICAL STANCE AND WHO HAS MADE MONEY OFF OF HIS SCHOLASTIC PARTICIPATION IN THE DEER BREEDING INDUSTRY. NOW THAT HE HAS A NAME AND A TITLE HE WANTS TO USE THIS TO KEEP OTHERS FROM BENEFITING FROM THE DEER BREEDING INDUSTRY.
QDMA NEEDS TO REMOVE BRIAN FROM HIS POSITION AT QDMA. HE HAS COMPROMISED HIS STATUS AS A UNBIASED LEADER FOR THE QDMA, ATTACKING THE VERY INDUSTRY THAT GAVE HIM THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO AQUIRE HIS DEGREE AND POSITION OF AUTHORITY.
SEND THIS TO ALL THE SPONSORS OF QDMA.
CEO (Brian Murphy) Worked in a Deer Breeding Facility
Brian Murphy
Wildlife Biologist and CEO of Quality Deer Management Association
Brian Murphy was born in New Mexico and raised in Texas and Oklahoma. His life-long passion for the outdoors led him to pursue a career in wildlife conservation and management. Brian received his B.S. in Range and Wildlife Management from Texas Tech University and his M.S. in Wildlife Resources from the University of Georgia. Following graduation, Brian worked as a Wildlife Research Coordinator for the University of Georgia where he coordinated all deer research. In 1993, Brian accepted the position of Deer Biologist for the Australian government. During Brian's four years “down under,” he implemented the concepts of Quality Deer Management and Property-based Game Management on more than 500,000 acres. During his last year, Brian established a Game Management Unit within the Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Service, only the second such unit in Australia at the time. In 1996 Brian received the National Conservation Award from the Australian Deer Association.
Upon returning to the United States in 1997, Brian accepted the position of Chief Executive Officer with the Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA). During Brian’s 12 years with QDMA, membership has grown from 3,400 to 50,000 in all 50 states, Canada and several countries. Today, QDMA is widely regarded as the most respected and influential whitetail organization in North America.
Brian also is a prolific writer and speaker, having conducted over 600 lectures on deer biology and management and published nearly 120 popular and scientific articles and book chapters.
BRIAN MURPHY HAS BENEFITED FROM RESEARCH IN DEER BREEDING FACILITITES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA. HE WORKED WITH THE AUSTRAILIAN DEER ASSOCIATION ( A HIGH FENCE DEER BREEDING ASSOCIATION) TO IMPROVE THEIR PROGRAM.
THIS CEO OF QDMA IS TAKING A HYPOCRITICAL STANCE AND WHO HAS MADE MONEY OFF OF HIS SCHOLASTIC PARTICIPATION IN THE DEER BREEDING INDUSTRY. NOW THAT HE HAS A NAME AND A TITLE HE WANTS TO USE THIS TO KEEP OTHERS FROM BENEFITING FROM THE DEER BREEDING INDUSTRY.
QDMA NEEDS TO REMOVE BRIAN FROM HIS POSITION AT QDMA. HE HAS COMPROMISED HIS STATUS AS A UNBIASED LEADER FOR THE QDMA, ATTACKING THE VERY INDUSTRY THAT GAVE HIM THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO AQUIRE HIS DEGREE AND POSITION OF AUTHORITY.
SEND THIS TO ALL THE SPONSORS OF QDMA.
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Please be advised . . . before you post that to the QDMA forums, please listen to Sharkey's remarks on one of the four or five other forum threads on this subject . . . the Australian Deer Association has nothing to do with high fence deer breeding . . . he is from Australia . . . I think we should listen to him!
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I believe "sharkey" said that the Australian Deer association did not deal with deer breeding. Also, In my opinion working in a deer research facility at a university is something most "deer biologists" due at some point in their collegiate career if their universities have a research facility. They are working there for research purposes, in most cases not for the breeding industry. I am equally as fustrated with the QDMA and my family has dropped all our support. However, we need to fight legitamate battles, stick to the facts and let all the good that we do as an industry be known. We have the facts and we are right! What the breeding industry and hunting ranch industry do are great, great things, and a lot of the QDMA membership (some now former members) don't have any issues with the deer behind the fence. However, their leaders have taken an ideological stance against a good thing...and I believe they're going to lose a lot of support. I mean this with all do respect, but lets not get caught up in misinformation.
Jarrid Barry,
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Jarrid Barry,
Operations Manager
Powder Ridge Whitetails717-821-0669
[email protected]
