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I have around 50......a lot less than I had last year.....did some downsizing.......no I do not believe I have ever lost a deer to EHD and I certainly hope it stays that way.....been doing a lot of praying.......
 
Thank goodness for that. I think we need to look at Renegade's EHD protocol again. Really, it just seems to make a lot of sense. take care- over and out.
 
We are spraying with permethrin about every other day near all water sources and also after each rain (no matter how small) and the midges that carry EHD dont seem to be here. The treatment we used didnt work on our Lily-girl, I think she was just too far gone before the symptoms showed, but with the spraying and the vaccine something is working. Praying it stays that way!!



It is heartbreaking to hear of all the losses!!
 
Keeping ahead on spraying will help a lot. We had not been spraying much this year. Since it has been so dry we were not spraying as often as usual... and in a dry year... that leads to EHD fast. Total as of right now is 16 dead. 27 left. A friend was telling me today that he had heard of someone in Illinois that has lost over 100. This is not a fun year for raising deer.
 
Ben I can't imagine.......only that I guess if I should Be as unfortunate as you my answer for deer farming would be easy......just myown personal thoughts....I certianly hope and pray things turn arond for you...
 
pondflatwhitetails said:
Keeping ahead on spraying will help a lot. We had not been spraying much this year. Since it has been so dry we were not spraying as often as usual... and in a dry year... that leads to EHD fast. Total as of right now is 16 dead. 27 left. A friend was telling me today that he had heard of someone in Illinois that has lost over 100. This is not a fun year for raising deer.



100 DEER LOST ? UM DID SOME ONE DROP, THE FU$# ING BALL :eek::eek::eek::eek::confused::confused::confused:
 
crocket i can tell you first hand when EHD hits you can have the best of everything (spray system ,feed,vaccines,meds) and it just has to run its coarse i lost 1/3 of my deer last year and i had a friend that lost over 200 (YES TWO HUNDRED DEER )and there was no ball dropped .most of mine were dead within 12 hrs of showing any signs of sickness ,i will pray you never get EHD so you dont have to wonder who dropped the ball at your place (just the opinion of someone who dropped the ball last year I GUESS)
 
Yeah Crocket I think it would be wise to remove your previous posts.......it's bad enough people have to go through the tragedy of EHD......but then to be accused of dropping the Ball......Come on..........that's just Not Right!
 
I think that people who have not gone through this just do not understand what it really is. Before I had it I thought I knew what people were saying about it, but until you live it you really cant understand. Usually by the time you see it.. its too late. After a few days you just dont even want to go out to the pens to feed or do anything, just from the fear that youre going to find another one dead, especially when your current bottlefed fawns are starting to die. It just really starts to work on you after a while. I really dont want this to happen to anyone though. Its no fun! While I am at it I would really like to thank everyone for all the help and support! Im not sure we could get through this without it!
 
Ben, I am so sorry for your heartache, and especially now that you describe how you dreaded going into the pens to feed, or to do chores.



Please, can you describe to us, what you saw that might possibly resemble some "early symptoms" of the deer possibly not acting right? Any clues at all? I am thinking, I'll hit my deer with some Dex ahead of time or possibly a longer-acting antibotic to help a potential respiratory infection. Is there anything that can be done preventatively? What do you think? What did your vet advise? anything?

Lana
 
Lanasvet said:
Ben, I am so sorry for your heartache, and especially now that you describe how you dreaded going into the pens to feed, or to do chores.



Please, can you describe to us, what you saw that might possibly resemble some "early symptoms" of the deer possibly not acting right? Any clues at all? I am thinking, I'll hit my deer with some Dex ahead of time or possibly a longer-acting antibotic to help a potential respiratory infection. Is there anything that can be done preventatively? What do you think? What did your vet advise? anything?

Lana



Lanasvet,Yes, I'd be trying to concentrate on prevention rather than cure.



As your deer is quiet an option for you may be to move her inside behind insect proof screens before dusk & then let her out after the sun has risen each morning,this will minimise risk.This really wont be an option for anyone with more than a few deer.



Always be looking for the carriers & vectors. It takes both so remove one & your back in control.



As for 100 or 200 deer dead from hemorraghic viruses, one of the largest deer farms in Vic, Aust, which was owned by a very large plastics & container company was wiped out by MCF (rusa was the species,& it was 3 decades ago),no money or effort was spared on this project.I wont publish the numbers lost because it was staggering.



No one should be accused of dropping the ball because ,how do you see it coming,& it seems that those loosing whitetail there now are following very accepted practices.Maybe some practices need to be changed but now is not the time to discuss that whilst so many are just going day by day to get through this at the moment.



All The Best

Sharkey
 
I know what you mean Ben about this time last year i (and a few others around here )were going threw the same thing i dreaded getting up and going to the deer pens to see what was sick or dead or should i say what wasn't sick or dead ,i feel for you and the others that are going threw this ,i pray i dont have to do it again this year but it didn't hit hard till October here last year (something to keep in mind)
 
Deffinatly agree on prevention rather than cure. Like everyone says, lots of blinking, slobbering a lot, and when they seem really stiff are the first things I have noticed.
 
What's everyone's experience with a deer that has undoubtedly had all the signs and symptoms of EHD that's been treated accordingly, and survived with or without the help of medication. Has anyone had a deer display signs multiple times of contracting it in a couple month span or even several years?
 
Ive had them sick for months they look better for a couple days up eating and alert then down sick almost dead for a week ,skin and bones for months then get better,never give up on them till its over
 
I would say the deer licking their lips is a first sign we look for.When the swelling/fever from the disease starts they lick and try and comfort themselves. Any licking or breathing heavy from the hind qts, we give meds right away. We check our pens more than 2x a day.
 
If they are walking bad it is too far...first signs for us is licking lips and unusual behavior that is not the norm. That means you have to be in the pens a lot so you know when a deer is acting the slight bit different. Just like bottle feeding. We can tell from one feeding to the next if a deer is not right. A deer can die between a feeding. Know your deer and watch for early, early symptoms. READ, STUDY all you can on EHD!
 

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