We Had A Attack On Our Deer This Morning

Sorry about the misfortune!!...electric fence? Also they make electronic "predator-eyes"?

Dave, i think your buck will be just fine. I have had bucks bleed that bad when they shed. It appears that he didn't damage the pedicle. He was probably close to shedding anyhow.

Sorry about what happened. Good luck! (Do your neighbors have any dogs? that is what i would suspect)

Dave sorry to hear this.I had the same thing one time.I know people say electric and mabey its good but i could not sleep untill i put preditor fence along the bottom of my deer fence.If you take 2 or 3 feet of any kind of page wire and get some of those hog rings,take the page wire up your deer fence 6 to 8 inches and connect it with the hog rings.Take the rest of the fence and lay it out on the ground.We went around and covered ours with dirt and let the grass grow up through it.More or less you have 2 feet of fence on the outside of your deer pens so when you or a yote or dog are walking around the outside of your fence you are actually walking on the fence under your feet under the ground.When something starts digging to get in they run into the fence after they dig a couple inchs and soon give up.If anything gets in here they have to go over the top!!!

I had coyotes or possibly a fox try and dig under my fence in 3 places the first night I had my 5 acre enclosure completed, no deer in it yet at the time. I was so nervous so I put up electric wire all around the bottom the next day, 6-8 inches off the ground and it's been close to a year with nothing getting into the pen or even a deer crash. I just used the poly weave string wire, its simple to put up and doesn't cost much either. I live where coyotes howl within a couple hundred yards almost nightly but after they get "rolled" by the hot wire they never come near it again, I have 4 labs that also have tested it and they will not go within 50 yards of that pen. It even carries a charge through the snow if it's covered. I also have a little lap dog that goes into the pen with me and they will run right up and lick his face but if my cat is prowling around they watch that thing like a hawk. I think if you can get them used to a pet dog during bottle feeding it will make your deer allot more calm. I have neighbors all around that have dogs barking all the time and used to come through the yard but I know they have all gotten zapped and seem to never return, they remember electricity, and I know somehow they can smell or sense it. I run over a 1,000 head of yearling cattle with 2 smooth electric wires and they won't go near it when its on but if for some reason it shorts itself out, they can also sense that it's not charged and will crawl right thru or over it so check it every day. For the cost and peace of mind it's a no brainer. I'm sure the buried wire will keep em out but electricity will scare em away for good most times, they don't have to be in the pen to injure your deer, just get 2 yotes trying to get in from a couple different sides for just a couple minutes and you could have a disaster on your hands. Most likely this time of year it would be a pair together that caused the problem. Keep us posted and good luck.

Dave a few golden marliin meatballs will do the trick for ya!!!

I like the bacon dangleing on a hot wire story.funny stuff there.Maby a slice of deer steak on the wire would teach them to not want deer.

Try this guy here he deals in them....hope this helps...I've never heard anything pos or neg on them...a few people were selling them at the nadefa convention.



Henry Martin

Alpha & Omega Whitetails

228 West Church Street

Annville, Pennsylvania 17003

(717) 507-6385

[email protected]

re broken leg

If you can, try to splint it to give it some support, for at least a few weeks. I also would give a shot of Excede SQ and also Banamine (to treat the swelling). Once a firm callous forms, it will help create support for the leg. My deer recovered from a total spiral fracture of the hind tibia, but she had two different (inadequate) splints made which she wore (tolerated) for 3 weeks, but had significant pressure soars (b/c her urine would leak onto the bandages frequently). I tried to keep her bandages as clean as possible, but it just couldn't be helped b/c when she urinated, she would rub her hind legs together... She is doing great now, almost perfectly healed. I would hate to hear an amputation story, if there is no compound fracture present. You have to sedate her, and appropriately bandage and splint her, probably 2-3 times in 2-4 weeks time. Please try.

Dave, When you get it up you'll no doubt accidentally bump into it or touch it with a piece of wire or something and the jolt will scare the S*#T out of ya, makes your whole body feel like someone hit your body from all sides with a sledge hammer and maybe even make you scream a lil bit!! After that you'll know exactly why they fear the juice!! I just used the plastic insulators that i screwed into the wood posts, about every 40' ft apart, the insulators are about 6-8 inches long and will keep your hot string out far enough so it won't short out against your fence, far enough away so they won't go over it or under and are sure to touch it. The poly string works better because it has a little stretch in it and easy to handle. Oh and when you get a charger, get one that plugs in rather then solar if you can, lot less maintenance. Good luck!

for the leg .At the drug store they sell the cement cloth that you make a cast with. It sets up real fast also. When it was used on me they first wraped a socklike material on first then the cast material . just get it wet and wrap it on. while its healing you can think of a way to get it off someday.

My pen is about 3 miles from the nearest house. I have the predator wire around the outside and have not had any coyotes get in yet. But, I also love that goldin marlin.

re: splint



Dave, a front leg splint below the joint is a much easier one to make. You just have to immobilize the joints above and below the fracture. Seriously, any large animal vet can do the splint for you. I have seen many make shift splints on this forum (see: http://www.deerforums.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2879&highlight=splint), and if you do searches you will see others, but what I know from personal experience is that a lot of cotton padding is used to cover and protect the leg from pressure points that will be created from whatever it is you use to immobilize her joints. Some people have successfully used PVC pipe cut lengthwise and sanded smooth at the edges (of course), others (like me) have had to call vets in, and they set the bone and splinted with plastic molded for dog's legs. The best case would have been to take my doe to a Vet hospital, large animal clinic and to have the bone pinned and then fiberglass (read waterproof) cast made for her. This was too costly for me, and I decided to engage the vet to make splints for her. Ideally, they should be changed as soon as they become wet. MOST IMPORTANT THING is to make sure that if you tape her hoof, you DO NOT tape it too tightly --- because you don't want to cut off her circulation, however THE HOOF if taped, MUST BE TAPED IN A FULLY EXTENDED POSITION (NOT BENT). Do some searches on the forum, you will find many splint examples.



My personal, NON-PROFESSIONAL opinion, based on my own experience with my deer, is that YOU SHOULD APPLY A SPLINT FOR AT LEAST 2-3 WKS and thus allow her to have some support. You may need to set the bone straighter than it is hanging right now also. The night before the vet splinted my doe, I literally had to snuggle up next to her and to turn her entire right hind leg to face forward because when she initially bedded down, her hind leg was facing 180 degrees (backwards) instead of facing flush forward with her other (normal) leg. For me, a city girl, this was very hard to do. I also gave my doe fawn (at the time ~60 lbs), 3 adult Bayer aspirins, and prayed that she'd make it through the night. In the morning she stood up, and sucked down 3 full gerber bottles of formula (the night before she refused to drink her milk). I knew that the aspirins had done their job. I continued to give her aspirins for a month afterward, and also have her a shot of Excede SQ each week for 3 wks. She NEVER developed an infection despite having rather extensive pressure sores which she licked clean as soon as the 2nd splint was removed. It was a hellish experience that I don't wish upon anyone. My heart goes out to you and your wife. I hope this helps.

FYI-- Scott Heinrich (on the forum) really is one of the top people to contact with medical questions.