Jay, Jack, when they get like this your right im afraid,i will keep doin all you guys suggest,Thanks Dc, i think now waiting and keeping hydrated and temp down, and pray, this stuff bad. Thanks, Jack
Thanks James, i hope so to ears still up. Keep close eye,up your way, we noticed yesterday laying by herself got are att, No rain but cloudy cooler weather blowin in so might help also. or prayer answered. DC
I tried with syrenge water was choking we gonna inject, how much and often, this rough part keeping hydrated, Her tongue do look some purplr blue looking.!! she having hard time swallowing i think,
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Russell, MN
I don't know a thing about blue tongue....but I do know that lactated ringers from your vet is the bomb for keeping them hydrated. You only have to poke them once instead of poking them numerous times or trying to force it down the throat.
As a general rule, 2-3 oz / lb of body weight / day, minimum. Use an IV set up that is 10 or 15 drops / ml and a 16 or 18 ga. needle so that you get it in her fast, so the treatment doesn't last so long.
If she is a mature doe, 80+ lbs, give her a liter of lactated ringers (LRS) at least 2/day, maybe 3 or 4. It also comes in a 5 liter bag, for horses or other large animals, that you could run to her sub-cu in 2 or 3 treatments throughout the day. It will blow up like a balloon under her skin. As soon as the balloon is gone, run her some more. Each side of the neck has the best absorption, she will look like she has football pads on. Some will settle down under her brisket, not to worry.
She will use all she needs, and pee out the rest. You can't overdo it when giving sub-cu. Warm it up so that you don't require her to use energy maintaining body temp.
If she is a mature doe, 80+ lbs, give her a liter of lactated ringers (LRS) at least 2/day, maybe 3 or 4. It also comes in a 5 liter bag, for horses or other large animals, that you could run to her sub-cu in 2 or 3 treatments throughout the day. It will blow up like a balloon under her skin. As soon as the balloon is gone, run her some more. Each side of the neck has the best absorption, she will look like she has football pads on. Some will settle down under her brisket, not to worry.
She will use all she needs, and pee out the rest. You can't overdo it when giving sub-cu. Warm it up so that you don't require her to use energy maintaining body temp.
Thanks Susan may run back i just got off phone with another farmer, he said he has put up to 100 cc of saline in one spot like pillow, we give her 30 or 40, she has quite foaming at mouth so some better,been at the liquid tylonol 36 cc so far, i load em up first day. We was typing same time robbie i will read yours what ever it takes is the plan, thanks DC and gonna give bannimine also, she has got up and movede to another shade.Im trying JAY!!
Well wife said sher is standing in small pond, must be cooling. she not acting as bad found her a shade by pond, just watching now. Ps i think she took drink,but still gonna help for now cause not sure she did
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Edgar, WI
David, like Robbie says, you can't over do the subQ hydration really. The little I have heard about EHD/Blue tongue dehydration is a major issue. I think I read that you used 100cc in her. Maybe I mis-read it, but 100cc is not much at all for an adult dealing with what I have heard EHD described as. All I am saying is be sure to use enough.
Good luck, I hope it turns out for ya.
Good luck, I hope it turns out for ya.
I think We decided to go that route Thanks rog, if she does take dirt nap.at least we all tried, Thanks, wife said she pretty sure she drank, ears still up. (EDIT) RELAPSE! foaming again and wably, did drink, i think the dex taking some swelling down, tongue hanging out, is blue purple, now that is sick!
Roger, you are right, 100 cc's is a very small amount. 30 cc's = 1 ounce. For an adult deer, that is a drop in the bucket. I would be looking at getting upwards of 2000 cc's in her.
No rog someone told me you could injecrt 100 or more in one spot.still lot inject.we got Iv bag C,mon, she not doin good. she dont want to get up now, she did earlir took drink laid down,then got up wabling foaming not got up since even trying to get her up in better shade but had to compromise, decid4ed to leave her To rest for now. that what we looking robbie start least 1,000 Thanks, we did inject 100 till iv bag get here, but decided that to many holes, With the drink hope ok till get it, Maybe 80 90 pound, yrlng,
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Deer Park, Alabama
David
I have no experience but I wonder if a cool water inema might help to reduce temp. Just a thought.
Good Lock
I have no experience but I wonder if a cool water inema might help to reduce temp. Just a thought.
Good Lock
Sure wouldnt Hurt, we are thinking of trying, in fact were gonna do now thanks Dc
Got good cool enama probably copuple quarts somne come out but lot stayed in i thought she was gonna blow but strained and diddnt, got 5 or 600 cc liquid also in back and neck, till iv get here, bout same cond. SICK I do think the banamine and Bunch tylonol helping,and dex i think swelling getting better, gonna be long nite! she has went downhill all day cant get up now.Eyes not as firery red.Dc
Hey DC , I just got home and read this thread . Gosh I'm pulling for ya and your doe there Big Boy . Keep her temp down and lots of liquids in her anyway you can .. Keep plugging away and hopefully she'll pull through .. Good Luck DC hope she comes out of it !! Don't give up !!
Ross this is worst any thing i saw, she goin fast,i just come in she suffring now I think it Bout Time To, change thinking,I Dont knoW!! she thrashing round cant get her head up now i dont thinkl i can let her go through what im seeing, DC coupl hrs ago she and got up drank, fadin FAST When do you stop tryin?
Well went out to see and decide on ending misery i didnt have to she died But im glad i didnt have to do, now gotta cut head off.for testing that really suck!
Sorry to hear that DC...you did all that you could. Sometimes this deer thing is fun but sometimes it really sucks.