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The day has come...

Hollowroad Whitetails, Love your deer. Would like to have some. I bet KY would not let me bring them in now.



I know you won't be able to...I talked to the Kentucky State Vet today asking if they take deer from MN. His answer was no because they won't allow deer from states that have a confirmed case of CWD.
 
Jeff23 said:
Thanks for the reply. 5 years? Where did that arbitrary number come from? What happens after the 5 years, I wonder? What about other (farmed)animals in that fence?



The explanation I heard was something about prions in the soil???? Crazy!
 
That sux bad , the more I read and hear about all this crap the more I wish I never even started raising deer .....:(
 
G O Whitetails said:
New rules: You can put other livestock in, on this land



Like I said before, this has to come down to a Federal lawsuit. Is NADEFA up for it?

People, we better get organized, and get our check books out. We have to draw a line in the sand.

It's just a matter of time, and anyones farm will get a positive.

This is what 100% testing will get you!

Missouri has closed their borders. We had better wake up. Those sitting on the sideline better get on board.



Gary



I think MO just stopped giving new farms permits to raise deer? At least I hope so! I'm moving some does down there and was told I'd have the movement permit in the morning.
 
Ryan,

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. I've been 2 weeks last Tuesday waiting on a permit. Sounds like it may happen soon but I wouldn't bet the farm on tomorrow. Good Luck...
 
I emailed the PA Department of Agriculture, hopefully they can give me detailed information about how this is going to effect our business, both in and out of PA. The organization that should know would be the NADFA because that is a national organization. If the NADFA follows this forum, which I hope they do, perhaps they can prepare a report on how PA sales to other states is affected and whether double fencing etc makes any difference. Alot of questions. I will contact NADFA and PaDFA. And this is obviously not just a PA problem, we all can benefit from a report explaining how each state is handling this since it sounds as if there is little or no uniformity among the states.



Hershey Haven: thank you so much for the nice comments. That means alot. My farm is double fenced so I'm crossing my fingers that that helps.
 
Here is the response from mary martin of the PA Department of Agriculture. Please let me know if there are other states affected and i will let her know.





Daniel,



Yes, it is accurate. *FL, MN, OK, will not allow from Adams,Bedford,Fulton and Somerset Counties. *NY will not allow if less then 50 mi from positive area. *IA will not allow if less then 30 mi from positive.
 
You know I have said all along if you test long enough and hard enough you will eventually find what your looking for . There are NEW diseases that pop up all the time NATURALLY and thats what I think CWD is. It a new type disease thats really been around a fairly long time and now that we're testing the hell out of our animals we're finding it . It's the DNR 's way to get rid of their compitition US ! They would be finding CWD if they tested enough even if there were NO cervid farms , but being we're doing all the testing we're the ones finding it FOR THEM !! They're using us to their advantage, you know !!
 
Wooden, Your right on this, they are using the CWD rules to stop our sales and trade on these animals, think thats called interstate trade and there are rules about that also. They knew all along they would find this disease on game farms and could shut us down. These absurd CWD rules are made to close the industry down. If we are required to kill our animals it is a takings. They know if the rules are so hard on us a lot of farms will get rid of their animals and close down. Over regulation and the cost involved in compliance will force many out of the business. Botton line it is their agenda to rid the industry. The only way out of this is a class action law suit or just close down your deer and elk farm.
 
Wooden acres said:
You know I have said all along if you test long enough and hard enough you will eventually find what your looking for . There are NEW diseases that pop up all the time NATURALLY and thats what I think CWD is. It a new type disease thats really been around a fairly long time and now that we're testing the hell out of our animals we're finding it . It's the DNR 's way to get rid of their compitition US ! They would be finding CWD if they tested enough even if there were NO cervid farms , but being we're doing all the testing we're the ones finding it FOR THEM !! They're using us to their advantage, you know !!



Exactlly!!
 
URGENT

CRITICAL ISSUE





To whom it may concern,



Early last week before it was announced, our Association received a phone call regarding the first found case of CWD in Pennsylvania.



On October 11th, the Pennsylvania Departments of Agriculture, Health and the Pennsylvania Game Commission announced the first confirmed case of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD). The case was found on a captive herd farm in Adams County. The specimen was a whitetail Doe. The Department released the included press article. It is important that you know more information, because this will change your operations, commerce and disease management within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Moreover, it will likely change how the states throughout the nation will view our deer. The Departments are gathering more information and have committed to keeping the Pennsylvania Deer Farmers Association as a partner in this urgent matter.



You will play an important role moving forward. Please do not spread non-factual information. In other states, the rumor mill has made CWD a disastrous economic issue. I am asking that you help all deer farms in Pennsylvania, including yours, by lowering the rhetoric and keeping conversations to facts. As facts become available, our Board of Directors and its staff will be responsible for disseminating the information. If you need to know more or have questions that must be answered, please keep your emails or phone calls to those responsible for gathering and maintaining the facts.



If you are not a member of the Pennsylvania Deer Farmers Association, an application has been included. Only members of the Association will receive benefit of continual updates regarding Pennsylvania’s CWD status. I urge you to join today. This issue will have a direct impact on your business. I implore non-members to join immediately and remain members throughout the next few years.





George Hazard

President PDFA
 
The information that Daniel posted is correct - "FL, MN, OK, will not allow from Adams, Bedford, Fulton and Somerset Counties. *NY will not allow if less than 50 mi from positive area. *IA will not allow if less than 30 mi from positive" but it is not complete as there are other states like Indiana and Kentucky that that have import restrictions for CWD states as well. Every state has some type of restriction and I hate to try and post what each one is as they do change and it is hard to keep up with them all. I would encourage everyone to stay in touch with your regulatory agencies and encourage them to open trade up as soon as the epidemiology work is complete.



Shawn Schafer
 
Shawn Schafer said:
The information that Daniel posted is correct - "FL, MN, OK, will not allow from Adams, Bedford, Fulton and Somerset Counties. *NY will not allow if less than 50 mi from positive area. *IA will not allow if less than 30 mi from positive" but it is not complete as there are other states like Indiana and Kentucky that that have import restrictions for CWD states as well. Every state has some type of restriction and I hate to try and post what each one is as they do change and it is hard to keep up with them all. I would encourage everyone to stay in touch with your regulatory agencies and encourage them to open trade up as soon as the epidemiology work is complete.



Shawn Schafer



I recieved an email that say there will be NO movement of deer from Pa into Ny. We have always had the 50 mile rule but that is no longer the case. We are told the line has been shut down untill further notice!!!
 
No PA deer to Indiana and if they would be from PA in another state no matter how long they have been there they cannot come to Indiana for 5 yrs.



Jerrilee Cave, DVM
 
Clearview Whitetails said:
No PA deer to Indiana and if they would be from PA in another state no matter how long they have been there they cannot come to Indiana for 5 yrs.



Jerrilee Cave, DVM



At this rate Indiana and other states will have nobody to buy deer from!
 
Shawn Schafer said:
The information that Daniel posted is correct - "FL, MN, OK, will not allow from Adams, Bedford, Fulton and Somerset Counties. *NY will not allow if less than 50 mi from positive area. *IA will not allow if less than 30 mi from positive" but it is not complete as there are other states like Indiana and Kentucky that that have import restrictions for CWD states as well. Every state has some type of restriction and I hate to try and post what each one is as they do change and it is hard to keep up with them all. I would encourage everyone to stay in touch with your regulatory agencies and encourage them to open trade up as soon as the epidemiology work is complete.



Shawn Schafer



Well Shawn, Maybe thats something NADeFA could post on their website and keep updated so everyone would know were to look to see what is going on in our Industry!
 
I feel for those effected by all of this. Excusing my ignorance, is it possible to transmit this disease (CWD) hypothetically speaking...intentionally; specifically, by drawing a transmittance source from a positive animal and injecting (by any means) into a healthy animal? I tell you truthfully, I'm not a conspiracy ***** but that's how much I trust our adversaries. That's Biblical, by the way.